Syrias as a heart attack: Electronic projects and politics

Re: Syrias as a heart attack: Electronic projects and politi

Postby Bucky » Wed Sep 23, 2015 15:51:23

7) We come in peace, shoot to kill, shoot to kill

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Re: Syrias as a heart attack: Electronic projects and politi

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Wed Sep 23, 2015 16:12:19

Bucky wrote:7) We come in peace, shoot to kill, shoot to kill


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Re: Syrias as a heart attack: Electronic projects and politi

Postby SK790 » Wed Sep 23, 2015 16:29:17

Thank you, 2 glaring omissions. So, yeah, let's stop preaching American values to immigrants before we become something as a society to actually aspire to.
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Re: Syrias as a heart attack: Electronic projects and politi

Postby traderdave » Wed Sep 23, 2015 16:52:28

Careful, SK, you are running afoul of #6.

The "funny" thing to me is the criticism that Obama gets for being an "apologist for America", as if it were a character flaw. Meanwhile, those same people shout for America to be a world leader, apparently devoid of the understanding that an ability to admit mistakes and make amends is one of the most important characteristics of a true leader. It is possible to love your country while acknowledging its flaws. My wife manages a similar feat daily as it relates to me. :lol:

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Re: Syrias as a heart attack: Electronic projects and politi

Postby SK790 » Wed Sep 23, 2015 17:32:17

I just realized if you'd encompass #1-7 into a person you'd roughly have Donald Trump. #woah
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Re: Syrias as a heart attack: Electronic projects and politi

Postby Youseff » Wed Sep 23, 2015 20:28:41

When asked on Newsmax TV's "The Hard Line" on Tuesday about Ben Carson's comments that a Muslim should not be president of the United States, the former Arkansas governor began by saying there is no religious test for public office, but then shifted to a comment about Obama.

"I'm less concerned about what faith the person has. I'm more concerned about the authenticity of their faith and how that plays out in their politics ... I'm also concerned about a guy that believes he's a Christian and pretends to be and then says he is, but then does things that makes it very difficult for people to practice their Christian faith," Huckabee said.


have we reached peak crazy/stupid for a GOP primary?
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Re: Syrias as a heart attack: Electronic projects and politi

Postby Youseff » Wed Sep 23, 2015 23:20:25

So obviously in normal common discourse and parlance, multiculturalism is not a very nuanced term, but it appears to be used sparingly by the racist right as a contrast to the idea of full on assimilation. It's certainly not common in respectful circles of society, and it's certainly aggressively and unapologetically xenophobic.

Europeans are finally awakening from their self-imposed Rumpelstiltskin deep slumber to discover that multiculturalism is actually cultural rot and is ripping their countries apart.

From the United Kingdom to France to Spain to Germany, leaders or former leaders have decried multiculturalism as a poisonous experiment for their nations.



Progressives love the multicultural vision, thinking that it makes them so tolerant. But it comes at a huge cost to the culture of the adopted country. America has toyed with it, but make no mistake, if we adopt it, it will be the end of America. Now please understand, I’m not saying to completely divest yourself of your home countries culture when you emigrate to America. You can still of course honor the culture of your country in a million different ways, but since you came to this country most likely in order to avoid persecution and/or for the great economic opportunity America affords, you should honor America and its culture as well, don’t you think?

Asking someone to adapt to our culture is very different from accommodating every other culture above our own. We HAVE a very strong culture of our own, and most immigrants (at least the legal ones) are here so that they can benefit from the opportunities America affords them, not the services the American government provides via theft.


The US chose a different, but still practical, path. It was intended to be different from ethnically-based nations, following the now-unpopular path of the ‘melting pot’ in which a new, American, culture would be created from people of different cultures who, while retaining some distinctive characteristics, would primarily see themselves as ‘Americans’, loyal to the nation as a whole.


"Members of the Western elite class overwhelming subscribe to a neoliberal outlook in general and to the tenets of multiculturalism in particular," the speech read. "In other words, they tend to accept the principle that recognition, positive accommodation, and even celebration of demands and special political and moral claims of various ethno-racial, religious, or sexual minorities are obligatory through group-differentiated rights. The result is a obsessive favoritism of allegedly disadvantaged groups often hostile to the European descendent majority of Americans."


Recent immigrants have to learn what is written in the Constitution; they are likely escaping places that don’t believe people are created equally and endowed by their creator with human rights and therefore cherish what America truly is. In other words, if you come from a place where you have no rights, you’re likely to truly cherish the place that respects your rights—and that is certainly the path that the overwhelming majority of American immigrants have taken for hundreds of years.


Asked another way, how is this multiculturalism working out for our culture.

As we see the role of Christianity diminished in our country — as we see our institutions abandon or corrupt its doctrine — are things getting better or worse for us?

When we eliminate all moral standards – When nothing is really considered to be “wrong” anymore, do we have greater freedom?


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Re: Syrias as a heart attack: Electronic projects and politi

Postby swishnicholson » Thu Sep 24, 2015 01:10:14

Heh, heh. Cox and Forkum.
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Re: Syrias as a heart attack: Electronic projects and politi

Postby drsmooth » Thu Sep 24, 2015 09:25:49

Probably doesn't go here, but this event fits my definition of 'mindless tragedy':



Apparently high death tolls have become a regular feature of Mecca pilgrimages.

Maybe there's a way in this to isolate the radical Islamists - I don't see them conducting huge human stampedes

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Re: Syrias as a heart attack: Electronic projects and politi

Postby TenuredVulture » Thu Sep 24, 2015 09:43:46

This "culture" is so dumb because it's unanchored in anything real. What elements of American culture are they talking about? I mean, the largest Christian denomination in the US is Catholicism, which was not originally part of our religious life. Or do they mean they want immigrants to over consume sugar water and fast food like real Americans? Or that we all need to watch Honey Boo Boo and pro wrestling?

The reality is no viable culture is static. It won't work, certainly not in America, but you can if you want do what France does and spend lots and lots of money in the vain attempt to preserve our culture through public funding of the arts, government control of broadcasting, laws forbidding the use of foreign words in media and so forth.
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Re: Syrias as a heart attack: Electronic projects and politi

Postby pacino » Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:35:28

thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.

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Re: Syrias as a heart attack: Electronic projects and politi

Postby swishnicholson » Thu Sep 24, 2015 12:10:28

drsmooth wrote:Probably doesn't go here, but this event fits my definition of 'mindless tragedy':



Apparently high death tolls have become a regular feature of Mecca pilgrimages.

Maybe there's a way in this to isolate the radical Islamists - I don't see them conducting huge human stampedes

note to Philadelphians: please don't stampede the Pope


From Al Jazeera:

The head of the Central Hajj Committee, Prince Khaled al-Faisal, blamed the stampede on “some pilgrims from African nationalities,” Saudi-owned al-Arabiya TV channel reported.

Meanwhile, Saudi Arabia's health minister, Khaled al-Falih, blamed undisciplined pilgrims for the deadly stampede, saying the tragedy would not have occurred if they “had followed instructions.”
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Re: Syrias as a heart attack: Electronic projects and politi

Postby JUburton » Thu Sep 24, 2015 12:19:57

Kind of concerning when the health minister doesn't quite understand effective risk management...

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Re: Syrias as a heart attack: Electronic projects and politi

Postby Youseff » Thu Sep 24, 2015 20:42:39

I lived in SF for about 6 years, and about half of the old gay guys there talk like Ted Cruz.

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Re: Syrias as a heart attack: Electronic projects and politi

Postby SK790 » Thu Sep 24, 2015 20:49:15

wow, i actually thought the same thing about the old gay guys in seattle...
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Re: Syrias as a heart attack: Electronic projects and politi

Postby 702 » Thu Sep 24, 2015 20:50:47

Take it to the old gay guy thread

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Re: Syrias as a heart attack: Electronic projects and politi

Postby drsmooth » Thu Sep 24, 2015 21:49:00

Gotta tell youse I am loving the swagger on this badass Commie pope, strutting into the halls of Congress and challenging them all NOT to applaud him cheering the likes of Dorothy Day and Thomas Merton - they were pen-pals, don'tcha know....

Almost makes me want to get up and dig out my copy of Seven Storey Mountain
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Re: Syrias as a heart attack: Electronic projects and politi

Postby drsmooth » Fri Sep 25, 2015 09:44:13

So Boehner's out
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Re: Syrias as a heart attack: Electronic projects and politi

Postby The Nightman Cometh » Fri Sep 25, 2015 09:44:21

Damn, Boehner resigning. If a tea partier gets elected this is going to be bad news for both sides of the aisle.
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Re: Syrias as a heart attack: Electronic projects and politi

Postby jamiethekiller » Fri Sep 25, 2015 09:45:15

took the POPES words very seriously

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