Hillary has started to feel the Bern (Politics threat)

Re: Hillary has started to feel the Bern (Politics threat)

Postby The Nightman Cometh » Fri Sep 04, 2015 08:51:16

Unemployment down to 5.11%, wages up .03% last month.

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Re: Hillary has started to feel the Bern (Politics threat)

Postby pacino » Fri Sep 04, 2015 08:52:04

i hope they don't raise interest rates to 'fix' unemployment just as this is finally hitting the real economy in a good way.
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Re: Hillary has started to feel the Bern (Politics threat)

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Fri Sep 04, 2015 08:52:33

marriage certificates being issued by the deputies
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Re: Hillary has started to feel the Bern (Politics threat)

Postby pacino » Fri Sep 04, 2015 08:53:20

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:marriage certificates being issued by the deputies

jeez, it's almost like she could let one of them have simply done it to begin with and this was all for show
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Re: Hillary has started to feel the Bern (Politics threat)

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Fri Sep 04, 2015 08:56:09

pacino wrote:
The Crimson Cyclone wrote:marriage certificates being issued by the deputies

jeez, it's almost like she could let one of them have simply done it to begin with and this was all for show



she told her lawyers to state publicly that she will not approve the certificates and they are not valid
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Re: Hillary has started to feel the Bern (Politics threat)

Postby pacino » Fri Sep 04, 2015 08:57:18

The Nightman Cometh wrote:Unemployment down to 5.11%, wages up .03% last month.

Obama!

wait for the inevitable adjustment, too:

Complicating the decision is an August number that traditionally has been the quirkiest of the year. Over the previous 27 years, August's numbers have missed Wall Street economists' expectations 21 times, with the average error 61,000, according to Deutsche Bank.

Moreover, Deutsche found that misses to the downside generally are much larger than those to the upside.

The August number also has been the subject of substantial revisions. In 2011, for instance, the initial reading was zero jobs created, a number that ultimately got bumped up to 104,000. In 2014, the initial reading was 142,000, later revised up to 203,000.
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Re: Hillary has started to feel the Bern (Politics threat)

Postby pacino » Fri Sep 04, 2015 08:58:14

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:
pacino wrote:
The Crimson Cyclone wrote:marriage certificates being issued by the deputies

jeez, it's almost like she could let one of them have simply done it to begin with and this was all for show



she told her lawyers to state publicly that she will not approve the certificates and they are not valid

she can simply deputize them, stand aside and she has not personally done anything. her motivation is making a spectacle of herself to try to get parts of the public behind her for personal gain. she's george wallace at the doors.

it's unclear to me why someone higher up the chain in state government has yet to step in to try to get her out of office. political reasons, i guess.
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Re: Hillary has started to feel the Bern (Politics threat)

Postby Bucky » Fri Sep 04, 2015 09:01:57

IMAGINE THE OUTRAGE IF SHE TRIED TO DENY SOMEONE A GUN LICENSE

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Re: Hillary has started to feel the Bern (Politics threat)

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Fri Sep 04, 2015 09:06:25

pacino wrote:
The Crimson Cyclone wrote:
pacino wrote:
The Crimson Cyclone wrote:marriage certificates being issued by the deputies

jeez, it's almost like she could let one of them have simply done it to begin with and this was all for show



she told her lawyers to state publicly that she will not approve the certificates and they are not valid

she can simply deputize them, stand aside and she has not personally done anything. her motivation is making a spectacle of herself to try to get parts of the public behind her for personal gain. she's george wallace at the doors.

it's unclear to me why someone higher up the chain in state government has yet to step in to try to get her out of office. political reasons, i guess.


The KY governor is a Dem and supports the judge's decision, so I think it's more complicated than him simply giving an executive order to remove her, I think the legislature has to impeach her and they don't meet for 4 months and probably wouldn't impeach her anyways
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Re: Hillary has started to feel the Bern (Politics threat)

Postby Bucky » Fri Sep 04, 2015 09:29:53

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Re: Hillary has started to feel the Bern (Politics threat)

Postby pacino » Fri Sep 04, 2015 09:36:49

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:
pacino wrote:
The Crimson Cyclone wrote:
pacino wrote:
The Crimson Cyclone wrote:marriage certificates being issued by the deputies

jeez, it's almost like she could let one of them have simply done it to begin with and this was all for show



she told her lawyers to state publicly that she will not approve the certificates and they are not valid

she can simply deputize them, stand aside and she has not personally done anything. her motivation is making a spectacle of herself to try to get parts of the public behind her for personal gain. she's george wallace at the doors.

it's unclear to me why someone higher up the chain in state government has yet to step in to try to get her out of office. political reasons, i guess.


The KY governor is a Dem and supports the judge's decision, so I think it's more complicated than him simply giving an executive order to remove her, I think the legislature has to impeach her and they don't meet for 4 months and probably wouldn't impeach her anyways

I know he's a Democrat. He can actually take action, though. He can call the legislature back, unless that's not a thing in Kentucky.
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Re: Hillary has started to feel the Bern (Politics threat)

Postby pacino » Fri Sep 04, 2015 10:43:52

Hungary is going to seal the border:
BICSKE, Hungary — Hundreds of asylum-seekers packed onto a train just outside Hungary’s capital continued a standoff with authorities on Friday, as the nation’s leader warned that an influx of Muslim refugees meant that Europeans could become “a minority in our own continent.”

As dozens of riot police guarded the marooned yellow-and-green train, the debate over how to respond to Europe’s refugee crisis continued to escalate. Hungarian lawmakers, fearful of the influx of asylum-seekers from conflict-torn nations such as Syria and Iraq, approved measures Friday that gave authorities sweeping powers to seal their borders.

The asylum-seekers said they had been tricked a day earlier by Hungarian police as they tried to reach Western Europe from Budapest. Authorities allowed trains packed full of migrants to leave the city center, bound for the border with Austria. But the trains made a sudden stop just outside Budapest, where a station platform was packed with riot police waiting to take them to a migration processing center. They remained there in limbo on Friday, as desperation mounted.

Adnan, who did not give his last name, said he would rather die than be sent to the Hungarian camp, where asylum-seekers fear they would face swift deportation. On the side of the train, someone had written, “No Camp, No Hungary,” in shaving cream.

On the platform were piles of bottled water, boxed juice and packaged cookies brought by the Hungarian Red Cross. For hours, nothing was distributed amid the standoff between police and the asylum-seekers, who appeared ready to start a hunger strike. But as the day's heat kept building, the migrants relented and police started passing out the food to hungry families

The package of measures approved Friday by Hungary's parliament gave Orban wide powers to deploy the military to the border with Serbia. Hungarian authorities had already built a long razor-wire fence to keep asylum-seekers out of the country. Now, crossing or damaging the barrier will be a criminal offense, punishable by up to three years in prison. Hungarian authorities will also be able to set up migrant camps right at the border, where asylum-seekers can be confined as their requests are processed.

Central European leaders were due to meet later Friday to discuss their response to the crisis. They have been far less willing than nations such as Germany and Sweden to take in the hundreds of thousands of asylum-seekers who have flooded Europe this year. Germany alone expects to take in 800,000 new people in 2015. Slovakia, by contrast, has said that only Christians need apply.

meeting families fleeing a war with military force. great!
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Re: Hillary has started to feel the Bern (Politics threat)

Postby Doll Is Mine » Fri Sep 04, 2015 12:01:02

My sister fears that this migrant problem will cause people in Greece to vote for Golden Dawn in the elections this month. GD are the neo-Nazi party who have promised to get rid of all immigrants by any means necessary if elected.

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Re: Hillary has started to feel the Bern (Politics threat)

Postby lethal » Fri Sep 04, 2015 12:19:29

I sympathize with the refugees. I'm one myself (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnamese_boat_people). My family fled Vietnam by boat in the late 70s after the war when I was 1 and made it to a refugee camp off the coast of Malaysia. The US gave us refugee immigration status let us come over about a year later.

There, the US was involved in the war. A lot of people went to France because of historic ties. Some people went to Canada and Australia because they were looking for skilled or educated people (doctors, engineers, scientists, etc).

Here, I don't know what the solution is. Its a huge burden on countries to take in millions of refugees, especially if you're not part of the reason they're fleeing their country and the only reason they're coming to you is because you're close by (especially Greece, which is already bankrupt). No easy answers here.

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Re: Hillary has started to feel the Bern (Politics threat)

Postby Doll Is Mine » Fri Sep 04, 2015 19:08:34

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Re: Hillary has started to feel the Bern (Politics threat)

Postby slugsrbad » Fri Sep 04, 2015 20:15:25

Attacking her personally seems... Icky to me.
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Re: Hillary has started to feel the Bern (Politics threat)

Postby PhillieMooDo » Fri Sep 04, 2015 20:23:54

slugsrbad wrote:Attacking her personally seems... Icky to me.

Not really a personal attack, so much as calling her out on her bullshit hypocrisy. IMO
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Re: Hillary has started to feel the Bern (Politics threat)

Postby pacino » Fri Sep 04, 2015 20:27:54

Is is an attack to note hypocrisy? She's made it personal by disrupting the lives of many in her area.
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Re: Hillary has started to feel the Bern (Politics threat)

Postby slugsrbad » Fri Sep 04, 2015 20:48:10

Who cares. She's on the wrong side of history; we all know that. The law won and she was put in jail and held in contempt. There is no need to bring out all of her personal details... it just seems wrong to me. I feel like our side the argument should be better than that.
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Re: Hillary has started to feel the Bern (Politics threat)

Postby Doll Is Mine » Fri Sep 04, 2015 20:52:08

slugsrbad wrote:Who cares. She's on the wrong side of history; we all know that. The law won and she was put in jail and held in contempt. There is no need to bring out all of her personal details... it just seems wrong to me. I feel like our side the argument should be better than that.


I have zero tolerance for hypocrites on this level. This is Josh Duggar level. And they both deserve to be called out for it.
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