yes?

Dinner w Hillary contest http://shoo.ly/1fBaa6d?ks=5061&prof=560 ... 3D65767843

Doll Is Mine wrote:So...could Joe Biden run?

At his age? Maybe a brisk jog.

Werthless wrote:I'm not very fatuous in general, so I gave a better answer.

But you "said" more than 4 consecutive words without interruption. Your answer never would have happened. Matthews would have chewed you up and drowned you out.

NEXT!

the Syrian rebels we are trying to train to fight ISIS are miserably failing. This is unwinnable. Stick to Iraq and let the Turks fight their border battle. get out

we can't even find people who qualify

Despite GOP opposition, Obama is turning 54 today

losing the War on Gray

Obummer can't win anything!

Have to say, Trump is holding stronger to this point than pretty much anyone expected.

the graph is pretty clear


bsed on Fox News' criteria, Rick Perry will not be in the main debate but will be at the kids' table. Bad news for media heads since he would've thrown him some zingers

The Nightman Cometh wrote:Have to say, Trump is holding stronger to this point than pretty much anyone expected.

It's probably good.
He has no chance but he is better than Thing 1 Thing 2 and Thing 3.

pacino wrote:the graph is pretty clear


bsed on Fox News' criteria, Rick Perry will not be in the main debate but will be at the kids' table. Bad news for media heads since he would've thrown him some zingers

I thought Fox refused to announce which polls they will use

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:

pacino wrote:the graph is pretty clear


bsed on Fox News' criteria, Rick Perry will not be in the main debate but will be at the kids' table. Bad news for media heads since he would've thrown him some zingers

I thought Fox refused to announce which polls they will use

they said the '5 most recent national polls' RCP has been averaging the 5 most recent national polls, so I am basing the cutoff on that. they will probably simply pick and choose in order to get the candidates they want up there, though. it's all on ailes.

fwiw, i think Trump has staying power. I think I'm the only one here. I've heard interviews with supporters; they know about as much as he does but they are backing him and will vote in the primary (so they say).

but don't you think Trump will cap off somewhere at 25% of the vote and once the herd thins he will lose most primaries to Bush or Walker?

He's not going to win, but the narrative that he has no chance isn't true.

I think Bush is going to win because he and his PACs will outspend every other candidate by a significant margin.

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:but don't you think Trump will cap off somewhere at 25% of the vote and once the herd thins he will lose most primaries to Bush or Walker?

he has overlap with Cruz and Carson voters, so I guess it depends on WHO flops.

maybe lots of people like Bush, but I've yet to meet one. i'm sure jh knows more about his appeal. his appeal seems to be what nightman says, MONEY. He can throw money from helicopters and blanket everyone with it. What a country.

I've said I think Walker wins.

The Nightman Cometh wrote:He's not going to win, but the narrative that he has no chance isn't true.

so you're saying he has no chance but he has a chance

The Nightman Cometh wrote:He's not going to win, but the narrative that he has no chance isn't true.

I think Bush is going to win because he and his PACs will outspend every other candidate by a significant margin.

He could become a different person. True.

Jeb is very likeable. He is the only one that will give Hillary a run. It will be close. He is her only competition, is Trump really going to pull votes?

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:

pacino wrote:the graph is pretty clear


bsed on Fox News' criteria, Rick Perry will not be in the main debate but will be at the kids' table. Bad news for media heads since he would've thrown him some zingers

I thought Fox refused to announce which polls they will use

Trump
Bush
Walker
Huckabee
Carson
Cruz
Rubio
Paul
Christie
Kasich

Perry the man on the outside looking in

they used: Bloomberg, CBS News, Fox News, Monmouth University and Quinnipiac University.

"From what I've heard, every one of them is going to come at me," Trump told reporters in Iowa recently. "For two hours, I'm going to be, like, in the lion's den, right? ... I'm hearing everyone say I'm going to be good at the debates. I don't know if I'm going to be good. I've never done it before. Politicians do it every night."

downplaying himself

The remaining seven candidates – Rick Perry, Rick Santorum, Carly Fiorina, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, Sen. Lindsey Graham, George Pataki and Jim Gilmore – are invited to participate in an earlier debate, scheduled for 5 p.m. ET, also airing on Fox News.

FWIW, there was a debate outside the official GOP circuit in New Hampshire that had little to no problem hosting all who managed to come (14 of them).
what a joke this entire thing is

pacino wrote:

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:

pacino wrote:the graph is pretty clear


bsed on Fox News' criteria, Rick Perry will not be in the main debate but will be at the kids' table. Bad news for media heads since he would've thrown him some zingers

I thought Fox refused to announce which polls they will use

they said the '5 most recent national polls' RCP has been averaging the 5 most recent national polls, so I am basing the cutoff on that. they will probably simply pick and choose in order to get the candidates they want up there, though. it's all on ailes.

fwiw, i think Trump has staying power. I think I'm the only one here. I've heard interviews with supporters; they know about as much as he does but they are backing him and will vote in the primary (so they say).

NATE says he's the Nickelback of candidates

tl;dr:

What’s going on? On Twitter yesterday, I likened Trump to the band Nickelback: disliked by most people but with a few very passionate admirers. The best contrast to Trump is Marco Rubio: like a “lite rock” radio station, he’s broadly acceptable but few people’s favorite. Rubio’s favorable ratings are much higher (56 percent) than The Donald’s, and his unfavorable ratings are much lower (16 percent). But only 6 percent of Republicans list Rubio as their first choice.

The Nickelback analogy isn’t perfect. As the Republican strategist Patrick Ruffini points out, the bulk of Trump’s support in polls isn’t necessarily coming from passionate Republicans but rather from “low-information voters” who may not turn out in Iowa and New Hampshire. That doesn’t mean none of Trump’s support is real, however. There’s another factor that helps him: He’s highly differentiated from the rest of the Republican pack.

just say that only idiots are voting for him and call it a day.