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Unread postby Bucky » Mon Jul 27, 2015 16:01:04

heard he running to help a nigerian prince?

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Unread postby Swiggers » Mon Jul 27, 2015 16:33:06

Humans like to create/structure narratives even when there isn't one. It's why conspiracy theories are as rampant as they are.

The simplest explanation is that Trump has no idea what he's doing beyond ego gratification. He gets asked a question, he says what he thinks without any filtering whatsoever. It makes himself and his party look dumb but it appeals to those who are tired of politicians speaking through filters, especially about race, immigration and the economy.
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Unread postby Bucky » Mon Jul 27, 2015 16:43:49

Occam's Razor Blade Club

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Unread postby drsmooth » Mon Jul 27, 2015 17:09:33

I agree with Jerz on discounting that Trump's doing this "campaign" with some plan to make money.

I'd also almost agree with TV that he's doing it as part of some sort of vast Clinton-wing conspiracy - except there's not nearly enough motive in that for the T-dog. It would suggest he actually had any abiding interest in the welfare of the United States. This is a venal, superficial, boorish lout of a human being.
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Unread postby smitty » Mon Jul 27, 2015 18:05:48

I don't believe he's even saying what he thinks. I don't believe he puts much thought into what he says. A guy isn't a hero except he is a hero. But he was captured and I like guys who weren't captured. Guys like me, I was never captured. Mexicans are rapists and drug addicts except for the ones who aren't.
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Unread postby Phan In Phlorida » Mon Jul 27, 2015 18:41:40

drsmooth wrote:... this thing will blow over soon, at least as much as Benghazi has blown over...

The House Select Committee on Benghazi still chugs along, having HRC publicly testify in Oct.
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Unread postby SK790 » Mon Jul 27, 2015 19:06:16

smitty wrote:I don't believe he's even saying what he thinks. I don't believe he puts much thought into what he says. A guy isn't a hero except he is a hero. But he was captured and I like guys who weren't captured. Guys like me, I was never captured. Mexicans are rapists and drug addicts except for the ones who aren't.

Smitty is clearly a hero. Hope Sanders picks him as his running partner.
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Unread postby Phan In Phlorida » Mon Jul 27, 2015 19:46:40

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Unread postby jerseyhoya » Mon Jul 27, 2015 22:09:39

Donald Trump introduced his presidential campaign to the world with a slur against Mexican immigrants, accusing them of being “rapists” and bringing crime into the country.

“I mean somebody’s doing it!…Who’s doing the raping?” Donald Trump said, when asked to defend his characterization.

It was an unfortunate turn of phrase for Trump—in more ways than one. Not only does the current front-runner for the Republican presidential nomination have a history of controversial remarks about sexual assault, but as it turns out, his ex-wife Ivana Trump once used “rape” to describe an incident between them in 1989. She later said she felt “violated” by the experience.

Michael Cohen, special counsel at The Trump Organization, defended his boss, saying, “You’re talking about the front-runner for the GOP, presidential candidate, as well as private individual who never raped anybody. And, of course, understand that by the very definition, you can’t rape your spouse.”

“It is true,” Cohen added. “You cannot rape your spouse. And there’s very clear case law.”

Cohen added that there is no such thing, legally, as a man raping his wife. “You cannot rape your spouse,” he said. There’s very clear case law.”

That is not true. In New York, there used to be a so-called marital rape exemption to the law. It was struck down in 1984.

Trump’s lawyer then changed tactics, lobbing insults and threatening a lawsuit if a story was published.
“I will make sure that you and I meet one day while we’re in the courthouse. And I will take you for every penny you still don’t have. And I will come after your Daily Beast and everybody else that you possibly know,” Cohen said. “So I’m warning you, tread very fucking lightly, because what I’m going to do to you is going to be fucking disgusting. You understand me?”

“You write a story that has Mr. Trump’s name in it, with the word ‘rape,’ and I’m going to mess your life up…for as long as you’re on this frickin’ planet…you’re going to have judgments against you, so much money, you’ll never know how to get out from underneath it,” he added.

Ex-Wife: Donald Trump Made Me Feel ‘Violated’ During Sex

While I understand the Occam's Razor explanation above, and think it is the most likely option, it is difficult to imagine what would be going differently if he was doing this in order to aid Hillary.

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Unread postby drsmooth » Mon Jul 27, 2015 22:38:08

jerseyhoya wrote:
“You write a story that has Mr. Trump’s name in it, with the word ‘rape,’ and I’m going to mess your life up…for as long as you’re on this frickin’ planet…you’re going to have judgments against you, so much money, you’ll never know how to get out from underneath it,” he added.

Ex-Wife: Donald Trump Made Me Feel ‘Violated’ During Sex

While I understand the Occam's Razor explanation above, and think it is the most likely option, it is difficult to imagine what would be going differently if he was doing this in order to aid Hillary.


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Unread postby pacino » Mon Jul 27, 2015 22:52:08

Norman Braman is going to spend 10 to 25 million to back Marco Rubio.
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Unread postby The Crimson Cyclone » Tue Jul 28, 2015 05:48:18

Yet he wouldn't spend the same for Reggie White
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Unread postby The Crimson Cyclone » Tue Jul 28, 2015 09:52:28

the discourse in the primaries so far is really something this year
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Unread postby drsmooth » Tue Jul 28, 2015 11:16:58

So Huckabee's roasted his own goose (I'm assuming in an oven), leaving what, 15 "candidates"

Kind of interesting no one's prodded Trump for a Huckabee comment - or that if he's been prodded, T-dog hasn't said anything incendiary
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Unread postby jerseyhoya » Tue Jul 28, 2015 12:21:33

Days after unveiling the first part of her energy and climate platform, Hillary Clinton refused to answer an audience question here about how she would handle the controversial Keystone XL pipeline were she to win the White House.

“This is President Obama’s decision, and I am not going to second guess him,” she told the audience member who implored her to “please” commit to either approving or vetoing the pipeline. Clinton explained that while she helped start the process of reviewing the pipeline during her tenure as secretary of state, she doesn’t want to interfere with the White House or current Secretary of State John Kerry.

“If it’s undecided when I become president, I will answer your question.”

#HardChoices

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Unread postby drsmooth » Tue Jul 28, 2015 12:58:38

jerseyhoya wrote:
Days after unveiling the first part of her energy and climate platform, Hillary Clinton refused to answer an audience question here about how she would handle the controversial Keystone XL pipeline were she to win the White House.

“This is President Obama’s decision, and I am not going to second guess him,” she told the audience member who implored her to “please” commit to either approving or vetoing the pipeline. Clinton explained that while she helped start the process of reviewing the pipeline during her tenure as secretary of state, she doesn’t want to interfere with the White House or current Secretary of State John Kerry.

“If it’s undecided when I become president, I will answer your question.”

#HardChoices


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Unread postby Werthless » Tue Jul 28, 2015 13:08:29

What is her energy and climate platform, if not a framework for making decisions about things like the Keystone pipeline? She shouldn't have to come out and take a stand on individual issues and trap questions if she has articulated a vision and set of principles.

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Unread postby The Crimson Cyclone » Tue Jul 28, 2015 13:10:56

I have to agree here, it's a dodge that implies that she was probably for it and is too afraid of backlash from the left voters during the primary if she admits that
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Unread postby Bucky » Tue Jul 28, 2015 13:35:11

Werthless wrote:What is her energy and climate platform


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Unread postby drsmooth » Tue Jul 28, 2015 13:35:28

anyone choosing their prez candidate principally on the basis of the candidate's Keystone position probably shouldn't be choosing any prez, or town councilman, or dogcatcher
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