Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby dajafi » Tue Aug 13, 2013 13:58:44

I'd also love to see Holt win. Tough to beat Batman, though.

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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby pacino » Tue Aug 13, 2013 14:00:48

and none of us live in NJ. joy.
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby jerseyhoya » Tue Aug 13, 2013 14:21:12

pacino wrote:booker does suck in comparison to Holt. maybe Holt can be senator next go around.

This is Holt's last chance barring Booker getting elected president/vp or Menendez going to jail.

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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby TenuredVulture » Tue Aug 13, 2013 14:36:57

I mean, I've probably heard from close to a dozen people, and none of them like Booker. He seems like a media candidate, sort of Gary Hartish. I don't follow the ups and downs, and I suppose in a low turnout election the Dem Org can get its guy in there. But I don't even know if he's all that popular in Essex/Union/Hudson county. Or is it the Camden machine that's going to give it to Booker?
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby jerseyhoya » Tue Aug 13, 2013 14:43:04

Pallone and Holt never took the gloves off against him. He started off with a big lead and the organizations eventually lined up behind him to back the winner. I was surprised Pallone and Holt waited to go up on TV long after the race was decided. They needed to try to change the narrative of the race right out of the gate.

I don't think anyone loves Booker other than the media (though that NYT story on his startup was pretty tough). But no one really dislikes him either, and with his name id, strong starting position and his opponents' reluctance at attacking him, the race never got as competitive as it could have.

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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby TenuredVulture » Tue Aug 13, 2013 14:47:35

Isn't this basically how NJ got Sen/Gov Corzine?
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby drsmooth » Tue Aug 13, 2013 14:49:44

jerseyhoya wrote:Pallone and Holt never took the gloves off against him. He started off with a big lead and the organizations eventually lined up behind him to back the winner. I was surprised Pallone and Holt waited to go up on TV long after the race was decided. They needed to try to change the narrative of the race right out of the gate.

I don't think anyone loves Booker other than the media (though that NYT story on his startup was pretty tough). But no one really dislikes him either, and with his name id, strong starting position and his opponents' reluctance at attacking him, the race never got as competitive as it could have.


so sounds like his ceiling is NJ senator; fine with that

seems too careless/reckless to stick it out multiple terms
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby dajafi » Tue Aug 13, 2013 18:24:01

Welp, DiBlasio now leads the Democratic primary for NYC Mayor based on today's Quinnipiac poll.

Was kind of getting tired of government anyway. And if I consult again, I'll have more time to follow the Phillies!

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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby Roger Dorn » Tue Aug 13, 2013 18:58:35

Has Booker done anything of note in Newark?

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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby pacino » Tue Aug 13, 2013 21:49:40

it's Booker time. would have to pull an aaron hernandez at this point to not be the senator. he appears to be going against a whack job
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby swishnicholson » Tue Aug 13, 2013 21:56:11

TenuredVulture wrote:Isn't this basically how NJ got Sen/Gov Corzine?


I think the Corzine decision was even more cynical than that, since he could pay his own way.

I don't think Booker's as bad as Corzine. He'll certainly be able to do less harm as a senator.
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby drsmooth » Tue Aug 13, 2013 23:09:24

dajafi wrote:Welp, DiBlasio now leads the Democratic primary for NYC Mayor based on today's Quinnipiac poll.

Was kind of getting tired of government anyway. And if I consult again, I'll have more time to follow the Phillies!

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so as I understand it DiBlasio, the dick in the lead, got most of the benefit of the dropoff in popularity of the guy who leads with his dick
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby CalvinBall » Tue Aug 13, 2013 23:17:45

He will make the third black guy in the senate, right?

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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby jerseyhoya » Tue Aug 13, 2013 23:50:30

CalvinBall wrote:He will make the third black guy in the senate, right?

Only Tim Scott right now

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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby pacino » Wed Aug 14, 2013 09:13:34

Rick Santorum sez there aint no class in America:
While speaking at a GOP fundraiser in Rock Rapids, the former Republican presidential candidate said the concept of class is used by Democrats to their advantage.

"Don't use the term the other side uses. What does Barack Obama talk about all the time? The middle class," he said at a fundraiser hosted by the Lyon County GOP. "Since when in America do we have classes? Since when in America are people stuck in areas or defined places called a class? That's Marxism talk."

He continued, "When Republicans get up and talk about middle class, we're buying into their rhetoric of dividing America. Stop it. There's no class in America. Call them on it."
Santorum has previously urged conservatives to avoid the term. During a Republican debate in New Hampshire in January 2012, Santorum chided then-rival Mitt Romney for using the phrase.

"The governor used the term earlier that I shrink from," Santorum said. "It's one I don't think we should be using as Republicans. Middle class. There are no classes in America. We are a country that doesn't allow for titles. We don't put people in classes. Maybe middle-income people."

However, as The Huffington Post's Amanda Terkel pointed out, Santorum has repeatedly used the term himself, including in his 2012 campaign literature.
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby The Nightman Cometh » Wed Aug 14, 2013 09:59:56

Glad to see we've annointed Booker as a failure before he even takes the Senator seat.
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby pacino » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:45:39

i didnt see that discussion going on, just that we much preferred Holt
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby pacino » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:47:37

Cartoons sparked protests in 2006, but cleric Ahmad Akkari now says Jyllands-Posten newspaper had right to print them:
A Danish Muslim leader who seven years ago travelled the Muslim world fuelling the uproar over newspaper caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad is back in the headlines in Denmark after doing an about-face on the issue.

Once a leading critic of the Danish cartoons, which sparked fiery protests in Muslim countries, Lebanese-born Ahmad Akkari now says the Jyllands-Posten newspaper had the right to print them.

His unexpected change of heart has received praise from pundits and politicians in recent weeks, though some question his sincerity. It has also disappointed some in the country's Muslim minority who were deeply offended by the cartoons.

Akkari, now 35, was the spokesman for a group of imams who led the protests against the drawings in Denmark. They travelled to Lebanon, Egypt and Syria to elicit support, saying the Danish government wouldn't listen to their concerns.

Their journeys helped turn the dispute into an international crisis. Dozens were killed in weeks of protests that included violent attacks against Danish missions in Syria, Iran, Afghanistan and Lebanon. Tiny Denmark found itself on a collision course with the Muslim world – something Akkari now regrets.

"I want to be clear today about the trip: It was totally wrong," Akkari said this week. "At that time, I was so fascinated with this logical force in the Islamic mindset that I could not see the greater picture. I was convinced it was a fight for my faith, Islam."

He said he's still a practising Muslim but started doubting his fundamentalist beliefs after a 2007 trip to Lebanon, where he met Islamist leaders. "I was shocked. I realized what an oppressive mentality they have," Akkari said.

A year later, he moved to Greenland, the desolate Danish Arctic island, where he worked in a school for two years.

"I had plenty of time to read and write. And think," said Akkari, who has shaved off the beard he used to wear.


"I met a man who has converted from being an Islamist to become a humanist who understands the values of our society," Westergaard said of Akkari. "To me, he is really sincere, convincing and strong in his views."


education's a good thing.

now where's the time machine?
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby The Nightman Cometh » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:54:07

pacino wrote:i didnt see that discussion going on, just that we much preferred Holt

Everyone was comparing him to CORZINE.

anyway, I think Holt is going to run for Gov in a few years. I'd be surprised if his war chest took much of a hit from this election.
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby TenuredVulture » Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:09:16

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pacino wrote:i didnt see that discussion going on, just that we much preferred Holt

Everyone was comparing him to CORZINE.

anyway, I think Holt is going to run for Gov in a few years. I'd be surprised if his war chest took much of a hit from this election.


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