Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby pacino » Tue Aug 06, 2013 20:31:40

Whined? Go screw

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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby jerseyhoya » Tue Aug 06, 2013 20:40:54

pacino wrote:that 'article' bemoaned some radio ads trying to help people figure out if they could get some help with their bills and 'goosing' the eligibility requirements (by relaxing ridiculous resource requirements for most people who already met them) and the horror of getting rid of the stigma of being on assistance by renaming the program to SNAP.

to all that i say 'so what?' people need help paying their bills. we can either do something and help some people out, since we've created more income inequality than at any other time since the Rockefellers and Carnegies, or we can just close up shop and say to each their own.

This is whining. The Cato Institute was mean to the poor people. All the government is doing is spending 3x more on a program than they were a dozen years ago. Why should anyone care?!

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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby pacino » Tue Aug 06, 2013 20:45:49

You are being pathetic. So there.

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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby dajafi » Tue Aug 06, 2013 21:36:29

It's been a few years since I followed this very closely. But I'm fairly sure that during the period that SNAP expenditures have increased, TANF expenditures have declined in real terms, and eligibility was tightened further. Unemployment insurance is a lot less generous and available than was the case in past decades too. These policy changes were enacted before the downturn, but their likely result has been greater need for SNAP since previously available resources no longer are. And it was more politically palatable--because of the Farm Bills--to expand eligibility for SNAP than to restore public assistance or comprehensively fix UI.

Ideally the way to reduce food stamp expenditures would be to grow the economy. Failing that, it's probably a better use of resources than what we'd likely spend on emergency healthcare and policing/corrections/shelter costs if we paid less to ensure that people could eat.

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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby drsmooth » Tue Aug 06, 2013 21:39:28

jerseyhoya wrote:You, having turned the thing into a debate in the first place, decided that this was a meaningless discussion since we're killing people with drones elsewhere, and oddly quoted someone else rather than one of my many posts on the matter. Now we're all learning that we shouldn't talk about government spending here because other more critical/costly issues exist. Good talk.



What I don't get is you're young-ish, and smart, and yet you continually choose to defend the "policies" and "governance" of people who would as soon shit in your mouth as look at you.

Your defense is you pretend that you don't understand what I'm talking about.
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby jerseyhoya » Wed Aug 07, 2013 01:05:52

No, I think they're right.

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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby thephan » Wed Aug 07, 2013 07:38:45

Phan In Phlorida wrote:Euthenizing the lazy poor would solve a lot of the country's problems


Don't forget the ill and elderly, Thanks Ms. Palin.
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby thephan » Wed Aug 07, 2013 07:42:57

I love that one of Spitzer's opponents is his ex-madam. NYC, funny.Of course she is a bit of a joke cnadidate and it might never have registered if she has not been accused of distribution of drugs
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby Youseff » Wed Aug 07, 2013 23:39:28

This is what a real tenderoni likes to do for you

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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby Barry Jive » Wed Aug 07, 2013 23:57:02

i'm lmaoing
no offense but you are everything that's wrong with America

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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby pacino » Thu Aug 08, 2013 07:45:47

Ron Paul Campaign Accused of Trying to Buy Iowa Endorsements:
The Ron Paul presidential campaign may have been involved with negotiations to offer financial compensation to an Iowa state senator in exchange for his endorsement and support in the 2012 Iowa caucuses, according to emails obtained by OpenSecrets.org.

The negotiations appear to have involved several top Ron Paul 2012 officials, including Jesse Benton, pictured with Ron Paul at right, who was the campaign's political director. Benton is married to Ron Paul’s granddaughter and is currently managing Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell’s 2014 campaign.

In an Oct. 29, 2011 email, a representative of Iowa state Sen. Kent Sorenson, a Republican, asks the Paul campaign to provide Sorenson with $8,000 per month in salary for him, $5,000 per month in salary for a Sorenson ally, as well as $100,000 in contributions for a newly created PAC that Sorenson planned to use to support conservative candidates for Iowa state office.

In exchange, the email, which was allegedly written by Aaron Dorr, executive director of Iowa Gun Owners, says Sorenson would abandon his support for Rep. Michele Bachmann’s campaign, endorse Paul, campaign for him and provide access to an email list of Iowans who support homeschooling.


from Wikipedia:
On December 28, 2011 Sorenson resigned as Michele Bachmann's Iowa campaign chairman and endorsed Ron Paul as his choice in the 2012 Iowa Caucus and the presidency of the United States.
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby td11 » Thu Aug 08, 2013 09:00:41



cmon it's ppppppppppolls #unskew it first dope
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby thephan » Thu Aug 08, 2013 09:01:17

Iowa seems to be for sale. Isn't there some to do about Santorum paying to play with a rainmaker for the conservative christian faction?

incidently, I heard something about tricky Ricky spending time in Iowa as a run up to 2016.
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby pacino » Thu Aug 08, 2013 09:24:59

i love that iowa decides our freaking national elections because....?


yeah phan, Santorum, Cruz, Paul have all spent time in Iowa to discuss 'national concerns'. I think Christie gave some speech there to raise funds for something, too. Ted Cruz was particularly sleazy about wriggling out of saying he's running for president. these guys can't even wait a year...the 2012 Iowa Caucus was less than 2 years ago! Several Democrats are already looking to put boots on the ground. Governance doesn't matter, just CAMPAIGN CAMPAIGN CAMPAIGN
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby pacino » Thu Aug 08, 2013 09:29:35

i'm not sure why we revealed and then shut down embassies...won't this just change their strategy? not good poker strategy. just feels like trying to prevent some more bullshit Benghazi stuff by overreacting the other way.
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby dajafi » Thu Aug 08, 2013 09:45:54

pacino wrote:Governance doesn't matter, just CAMPAIGN CAMPAIGN CAMPAIGN


One is difficult and thankless. The other is easy and offers huge ego gratification. Plus you gotta spend all that money somehow.

But yeah. I'm not sure anything would turn around the Middle American view of Europe quicker than the broader knowledge that their campaigns are really short, by law and tradition.

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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:33:26

pacino wrote:i'm not sure why we revealed and then shut down embassies...won't this just change their strategy? not good poker strategy. just feels like trying to prevent some more #$!&@ Benghazi stuff by overreacting the other way.

Not to mention that a cynical person might question why we suddenly are seeing the "most serious threat since 9/11" (not sure what that means considering no one was paying attention in the leadup to 9/11) only a short period of time after the NSA surveillance leaks. A cynical person might suspect that the intelligence community might want to put a scare into Americans and making them more willing to trade privacy for security.

A cynical person might do that.

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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:34:21


This RT made me laugh:

Jesse Taylor‏@jesseltaylor21h
Riley Cooper 94/4 RT @ppppolls Favorability ratings with Georgia Republicans: Paula Deen 73/11, Martin Luther King Jr. 59/28

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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby Roger Dorn » Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:24:23

At least 6 drone strikes in Yemen in the past two weeks, with 2 more confirmed civilian deaths on the ground. AP interviewed several Yemenis who abhor radical Islam, and yet they are forced to partly defend their actions based on the frequency of US drone strikes and how many civilians have been killed at the expense of a remote controlled robot.

I certainly feel no safer post 9/11, in fact quite the opposite thanks to the policies of both Bush and Obama. Our foreign policy can be equated with the kid who continually pokes a hornets nest with a stick until it falls down and the hive explodes.

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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby jerseyhoya » Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:38:16

And yet they've kept us remarkably safe for almost 12 years now

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