Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby karn » Mon Jun 24, 2013 19:31:08

Doesn't really change much. Sounds like he was trying to be a whistleblower before he got the opportunity of the lifetime to acquire confirming proof.

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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby pacino » Tue Jun 25, 2013 07:44:23

uh huh
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby pacino » Tue Jun 25, 2013 07:46:16

on second thought, Stockman's right-hand man fails the SNAP challenge, claims victory anyway:
Guess it wasn’t a snap after all.

Donny Ferguson, communications director and agriculture policy adviser for Rep. Steve Stockman, R-Friendswood, attempted to eat for $31.50 a week an effort to support the $20 billion cuts to the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program in the now-defeated Farm Bill. The challenge reflects the weekly allotment an individual receives under the SNAP program.

A few days into the challenge Ferguson said he was feeling great on a diet of beans and rice and peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.

But Ferguson, who bought his food and planned his meals at the beginning of the week, ran into a problem when attempting to travel –

Foiled by TSA. Can’t bring my #SNAPChallenge food on the plane with me, and I’m not paying $50 for the privilege of losing checked luggage.

— Donny Ferguson (@DonnyFerguson) June 21, 2013


His solution? Since SNAP funding breaks down to $4.50 a day, Ferguson limited himself to $9 in meals while traveling.

#snapchallenge Update, Day 5: On the road. Buying $9 of food for dinner tonight and Saturday and Sunday.

— Donny Ferguson (@DonnyFerguson) June 22, 2013



The Huffington Post noticed Ferguson’s tweet and pointed out that adding $9 to the original bill of $27.58 brought Ferguson beyond the $31.50 budget.

In the end Ferguson spent an additional $8.45 — $6.70 to feed himself and the rest to buy two cans of pork and beans for a local food bank. He spent $36.03 in total, going about 14 percent over budget.

#SNAPChallenge Update, Day 6: 2 days of food for $6.70 plus $2 in pork+beans for food bank. Less than $9 pic.twitter.com/My1BNU43sl

— Donny Ferguson (@DonnyFerguson) June 22, 2013

In an email, Ferguson said he didn’t find out about the trip until Tuesday — a few days after he had bought the food and begun the challenge. He said if he would have planned differently had he known about the trip in advance.

While it could be assumed most SNAP recipients don’t have to worry about flying and carry-on charges, unexpected changes in plans can happen to anyone. Someone who relied on the program might not have had the cash to buy additional food if they faced a similar situation.

It hasn’t made a difference to Ferguson. He plans to donate the extra food to a food bank and has taken to referring to himself on Twitter as the “Undisputed Snap Challenge Champion.

you mean life happens and under a strict budget sometimes things that you didn't plan on coming up come up and screw with the little money you have??? boy, good thing everyone on SNAP is able to just dip into their personal savings on a weekly basis when this happens!
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby td11 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:23:39

Supreme Court strikes down part of Voting Rights Act

Dan Froomkin ‏@froomkin 8m
A court ruled by originalists strikes down a duly-passed law they don't like on the argument that times have changed

Alec MacGillis ‏@AlecMacGillis 11m
The 2008 House vote to renew the Voting Rights Act was 390-33. #SCOTUS vote to eviscerate it is 5-4.
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:59:05

td11 wrote:Dan Froomkin ‏@froomkin 8m
A court ruled by originalists strikes down a duly-passed law they don't like on the argument that times have changed


:h:

Alec MacGillis ‏@AlecMacGillis 11m
The 2008 House vote to renew the Voting Rights Act was 390-33. #SCOTUS vote to eviscerate it is 5-4.

Stupid. Lots of unconstitutional laws were popular or easily passed. That's kind of the point of judicial review.

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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby td11 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:12:50

well i think he was just making the point that the conservative judges have always been against "judicial activism" up until now
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby td11 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:22:51

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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby td11 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:33:05

here's a pdf of the decision: http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/12 ... 6_6k47.pdf

On “Bloody Sunday” in 1965, in Selma, Alabama, police beat
and used tear gas against hundreds marching in sup- port of African-American enfranchisement. See Northwest Austin, supra, at 220, n. 3 (THOMAS, J., concurring injudgment in part and dissenting in part). Today both ofthose towns are governed by African-American mayors. Problems remain in these States and others, but there is no denying that, due to the Voting Rights Act, our Nationhas made great strides.


from the selma, alabama wiki page:

Selma Alabama also has a controversial monument to Nathan Bedford Forrest, a Confederate General and KKK Grand Wizard, located in Old Live Oak Cemetery.[17] In August, 2012, plans were announced to build a larger monument, more resistant to vandalism.[18]
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby pacino » Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:52:16

yeah but still
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby CalvinBall » Tue Jun 25, 2013 13:36:03

for supposedly being so awesome this country can suck a dick sometimes.

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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby Roger Dorn » Tue Jun 25, 2013 13:54:31

CalvinBall wrote:for supposedly being so awesome this country can suck a dick sometimes.


More than sometimes. The whole jingoistic we're #1 schtick is lame and counter-productive. We're better off than most countries, but Americans put on blinders and like to pretend we are still tops in the world in most rankings which of course is far from the truth.

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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Tue Jun 25, 2013 14:14:19

td11 wrote:well i think he was just making the point that the conservative judges have always been against "judicial activism" up until now

Meh, it's a pretty tired and lazy point. Any case striking down legislation can be criticizes as judicial activism.

Now the criticism that Scalia/Alito/Roberts (not so much Thomas) struck down a piece of legislation due to evolving social norms... that's priceless. Can't wait to see this case cited in favor of all sorts of progressive arguments and watch those hypocrites squirm.

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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby kopphanatic » Tue Jun 25, 2013 14:14:56

Now we get to see if Alabama and Mississippi have changed that much in 50 years.
You're the conductor Ruben. Time to blow the whistle!

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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby Barry Jive » Tue Jun 25, 2013 14:23:55

I'd like to see some northerners go after their own racists in the new version of the Voter Rights Act. the South being singled out is hypocritical as hell.
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby pacino » Tue Jun 25, 2013 14:33:52

there were plenty of northern cities and towns under the Act (including this place called NYC), and also many who proved they no longer needed to get the pre-approval and were taken off the list.


edit: linkage, ya'll
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby Barry Jive » Tue Jun 25, 2013 14:34:33

yes, I struggle with the "proof." PA tried to pass voter ID laws last year, remember
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby pacino » Tue Jun 25, 2013 14:36:45

The following jurisdictions were once subject to Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act, but have successfully obtained a declaratory judgment under Section 4 of the Voting Rights Act, and are currently bailed out. The date listed below is the date on which these jurisdictions were granted a declaratory judgment allowing them to bail out. Also included below are some examples of a stipulation of facts and consent decree in several bailout cases.

Wake County, North Carolina - January 23, 1967

Curry, McKinley and Otero Counties, New Mexico - July 30, 1976

Towns of Cadwell, Limestone, Ludlow, Nashville, Reed, Woodland, Connor, New Gloucester, Sullivan, Winter Harbor, Chelsea, Sommerville, Carroll, Charleston, Webster, Waldo, Beddington, and Cutler, Maine - September 17, 1976

Choctaw and McCurtain Counties, Oklahoma - May 12, 1978

Campbell County, Wyoming - December 17, 1982

Towns of Amherst, Ayer, Belchertown, Bourne, Harvard, Sandwich, Shirley, Sunderland, and Wrentham, Massachusetts - September 29, 1983

Towns of Groton, Mansfield, and Southbury, Connecticut - June 21, 1984

El Paso County, Colorado - July 30, 1984

Honolulu County, Hawaii - July 31, 1984

Elmore County, Idaho - September 22, 1966; July 31, 1984

City of Fairfax, Virginia, including the City of Fairfax School Board - October 21, 1997
Stipulation of Facts Consent Decree

Frederick County, Virginia, including the Frederick County School Board the Towns of Middletown and Stephens City; and the Frederick County Shawneeland Sanitary District - September 9, 1999
Stipulation of Facts Consent Decree

Shenandoah County, Virginia including the Shenandoah County School Board, the Towns of Edinburg, Mount Jackson, New Market, Strasburg, Toms Brook, and Woodstock, the Stoney Creek Sanitary District, and the Toms Brook-Maurertown Sanitary District - October 15, 1999
Stipulation of Facts Consent Decree

Roanoke County, Virginia, including the Roanoke County School Board and the Town of Vinton - January 24, 2001
Stipulation of Facts Consent Decree

City of Winchester, Virginia - June 1, 2001
Stipulation of Facts Consent Decree

City of Harrisonburg, Virginia, including the Harrisonburg City School Board - April 17, 2002
Stipulation of Facts Consent Decree

Rockingham County, Virginia, including the Rockingham County School Board and the Towns of Bridgewater, Broadway, Dayton, Elkton, Grottoes, Mt. Crawford, and Timberville - May 24, 2002
Stipulation of Facts Consent Decree

Warren County, Virginia, including the Warren County School Board and the Town of Front Royal - November 26, 2002
Stipulation of Facts Consent Decree

Greene County, Virginia, including the Greene County School Board and the Town of Standardsville - January 19, 2004
Stipulation of Facts Consent Decree

Pulaski County, Virginia, including the Pulaski County School Board and the Towns of Pulaski and Dublin - September 27, 2005
Stipulation of Facts Consent Decree

Augusta County, Virginia, including the Augusta County School Board and the Town of Craigsville - November 30, 2005
Stipulation of Facts Consent Decree

City of Salem, Virginia - July 27, 2006
Stipulation of Facts Consent Decree

Botetourt County, Virginia, including the Botetourt County School Board and the Towns of Buchanan, Fincastle, and Troutville - August 28, 2006
Stipulation of Facts Consent Decree

Essex County, Virginia including the Essex County School Board and the Town of Tappahannock - January 31, 2007
Stipulation of Facts (1) Stipulation of Facts (2) Consent Decree

Middlesex County, Virginia, including the Middlesex County School Board and the Town of Urbanna - January 7, 2008
Stipulation of Facts Consent Decree

Amherst County, Virginia, including the Town of Amherst - August 13, 2008
Stipulation of Facts Consent Decree

Page County, Virginia, including the Page County School Board and the Towns of Luray, Stanley, and Shenandoah - September 15, 2008
Stipulation of Facts Consent Decree

Washington County, Virginia, including the Washington County School Board and the Towns of Abington, Damascus, and Glade Spring - September 23, 2008
Stipulation of Facts Consent Decree

Northwest Austin Municipal Utility District Number One, Texas - November 3, 2009

City of Kings Mountain, North Carolina - October 22, 2010
Consent Decree

City of Sandy Springs, Georgia - October 26, 2010
Consent Decree

Jefferson County Drainage District Number Seven, TX - June 6, 2011
Consent Decree

Alta Irrigation District, CA - July 15, 2011
Consent Decree

City of Manassas Park, VA - August 3, 2011
Consent Decree

Rappahannock County, VA, including the Rappahannock County School Board and the Town of Washington - August 9, 2011
Consent Decree

Bedford County, VA, including the Bedford County School Board - August 30, 2011
Consent Decree

City of Bedford, VA - August 31, 2011
Consent Decree

Culpeper County, VA, including the Culpeper County School Board and the Town of Culpeper - October 3, 2011
Consent Decree

James City County, VA - November 9, 2011
Consent Decree

City of Williamsburg, VA, including the Williamsburg-James City County School Board - November 28, 2011
Consent Decree

King George County, VA, including the King George County School Board - April 5, 2012
Consent Decree

Prince William County, VA, including the Prince William County School Board and the Towns of Dumfries, Haymarket, Occoquan, and Quantico - April 10, 2012
Consent Decree

City of Pinson, AL - April 20, 2012
Consent Decree

Wythe County, VA, including the County School Board and the Towns of Rural Retreat and Wytheville - June 18, 2012
Consent Decree

Grayson County, VA, including the County School Board and the Towns of Independence, Fries and Troutdale - July 20, 2012
Consent Decree

Merced County, CA, including some 84 other governmental units - August 31, 2012
Consent Decree

Craig County, VA, including the Craig County School District and the Town of New Castle - November 29, 2012
Consent Decree

Carroll County, VA, including the Carroll County School District and the Town of Hillsville - November 30, 2012
Consent Decree

Browns Valley Irrigation District in Yuba County, CA - February 4, 2013
Consent Decree

Towns of Antrim, Benton, Boscawen, Millsfield, Newington, Pinkham's Grant, Rindge, Stewartstown, Stratford, and Unity, NH - March 1, 2013
Consent Decree

City of Wheatland in Yuba County, CA - April 25, 2013
Consent Decree

City of Falls Church, VA and the Falls Church City Public School District - May 29, 2013
Consent Decree

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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby pacino » Tue Jun 25, 2013 14:38:39

Barry Jive wrote:yes, I struggle with the "proof." PA tried to pass voter ID laws last year, remember

that was halted under section 5 of the Voting Rights Act


basically, they weren't able to prove they could be taken off the list, so they sued all the way up to the SC to get rid of it because they were butthurt they werent able to put in biased laws which would restrict voting rights for certain minorities. freedom.
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby Barry Jive » Tue Jun 25, 2013 14:45:55

i don't know what that has to do with me calling for more accountability everywhere else
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby pacino » Tue Jun 25, 2013 14:53:21

i didnt want to write 8 posts
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