Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby TenuredVulture » Sat Jun 22, 2013 00:43:33

jerseyhoya wrote:
TenuredVulture wrote:I think Politico is worse than Redstate.

SPEAKING OF MONKEYCAGE LINKS, you saw their piece on Politico, huh?

YES I DID, and I LIKED it BECAUSE IT REinforceD my OPINION.

I think HUFFINGTON POST is pretty bad too, but that's mostly an issue of terrible misleading headlines and awful site design.
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby jerseyhoya » Sat Jun 22, 2013 00:44:40

I like reading Politico, and they do get some really worthwhile nuggets from time to time, but with a good portion of their stuff I find myself in the middle of an article and wonder how the fuck they chose that specific angle for the story or why they think action X is worthy of indignation (or coverage at all). They really do care about weird inside baseball shit, which is fine, but they seem to think other people should care about it too (and their reporting does drive other media activity, which gets us wallowing in irrelevant shitstorms from time to time). I still talk to a handful of former coworkers who are still in the game, and it's funny how when some things happen they get super pumped or totally freaked out as if it's going to be massive, but they're just inside the beltway blow ups that barely register even with the type of people who post on politics forums on baseball message boards. I also realize that was me five years ago and judge them less harshly.

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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby jerseyhoya » Sat Jun 22, 2013 02:05:32

A Cooling Consensus

GLOBAL warming has slowed. The rate of warming of over the past 15 years has been lower than that of the preceding 20 years. There is no serious doubt that our planet continues to heat, but it has heated less than most climate scientists had predicted. Nate Cohn of the New Republic reports: "Since 1998, the warmest year of the twentieth century, temperatures have not kept up with computer models that seemed to project steady warming; they’re perilously close to falling beneath even the lowest projections".


Mr Cohn does his best to affirm that the urgent necessity of acting to retard warming has not abated, as does Brad Plumer of the Washington Post, as does this newspaper. But there's no way around the fact that this reprieve for the planet is bad news for proponents of policies, such as carbon taxes and emissions treaties, meant to slow warming by moderating the release of greenhouse gases. The reality is that the already meagre prospects of these policies, in America at least, will be devastated if temperatures do fall outside the lower bound of the projections that environmentalists have used to create a panicked sense of emergency. Whether or not dramatic climate-policy interventions remain advisable, they will become harder, if not impossible, to sell to the public, which will feel, not unreasonably, that the scientific and media establishment has cried wolf.

Dramatic warming may exact a terrible price in terms of human welfare, especially in poorer countries. But cutting emissions enough to put a real dent in warming may also put a real dent in economic growth. This could also exact a terrible humanitarian price, especially in poorer countries.

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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby Phan In Phlorida » Sat Jun 22, 2013 05:07:06

Snowden charged with espionage.
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby drsmooth » Sat Jun 22, 2013 05:32:20

jerseyhoya wrote:A Cooling Consensus



Will Wilkensen's PhD in philosophy and his Cato Institute perch make him a climate science authority like my BSG handle & too many thousand posts make me an expert on Asian lepidoptera
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby The Nightman Cometh » Sat Jun 22, 2013 11:32:42

Good to read that people are too stupid to understand that climate change has more implications than rising temperatures.
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby dajafi » Sat Jun 22, 2013 15:23:16

Watched the last half of "Game Change" this morning on hbo. I enjoyed it, yet felt dirty afterward. Moore, Harris and Harrelson all were great.

The most disturbing part: I figured out that Jamey Sheridan (aka the vice president on "Homeland" and Randall Flagg in the 1994 version of "The Stand") was Mark Salter before anyone addressed him as such. I paid way too much attention to this stuff back then.

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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby Luzinski's Gut » Sat Jun 22, 2013 20:57:21

This may or may not be interesting to you, but I've been working with a senior meteorologist at the Weather Channel over the last two weeks. He's done some very innovative and groundbreaking work on climate change...and the four star general I work directly for is very interested in the impacts of climate change.

It's actually one of the coolest projects I'm in charge of right now.


The Nightman Cometh wrote:Good to read that people are too stupid to understand that climate change has more implications than rising temperatures.
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby dajafi » Sun Jun 23, 2013 01:07:08

Maybe this is why the military has such a relatively high level of trust amongst American institutions--they're more empirically oriented than most of the other ones.

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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby Luzinski's Gut » Sun Jun 23, 2013 07:41:36

I think that is certainly part of it.

But I also think its because we have design, planning and operational research/systems analysis capabilities that are not found in any other organization or corporation.

Hurricane Sandy opened a lot of eyes. Mainly because it hit such a populated area that is the foremost economic generator of the country...it caused a lot of the senior leadership to recognize that the climate is changing and there are wide ranging impacts that we are just starting to come to grips with.

There are some very, very interesting trends developing with climate change. None of which are particularly beneficial/

dajafi wrote:Maybe this is why the military has such a relatively high level of trust amongst American institutions--they're more empirically oriented than most of the other ones.
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby Wizlah » Sun Jun 23, 2013 09:12:52

LG, you familiar with the work of Vinay Gupta? He's an engineer and disaster planner who did work with the Pentagon principally because he felt they were one of the few institutions in the US who might sensibly plan for the worst outcomes of climate change and try and take more prevantative action. He's a massive ego, but well worth following on twitter for the info he provides.

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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby Luzinski's Gut » Sun Jun 23, 2013 09:39:51

Wiz - I'm not, but I just started up the Google Machine and am doing some research on him.

Thanks fer the tip!

I'm looking through his blog...has some thoughts that I am familiar with through other people I follow. Some interesting thoughts I have not considered as well...looks like my Sunday is shot now...thanks!
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby Slowhand » Sun Jun 23, 2013 09:57:25

Snowden has left the building (again)

MOSCOW — An Aeroflot flight from Hong Kong believed to be carrying Edward Snowden, the former contractor who leaked top-secret documents about about U.S. surveillance programs, landed at Sheremetyevo International Airport on Sunday. Snowden left Hong Kong “on his own accord for a third country,” the government in Hong Kong said Sunday afternoon.

Snowden’s final destination is unclear. Russian news agency Interfax and Radio Ekho Moskvy reported that Snowden was booked on a flight to Cuba and then from Havana to Caracas, Venezuela. The next Aeroflot flight to Havana leaves Monday. Ecuador and Iceland have also been mentioned as possibilities.
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby pacino » Sun Jun 23, 2013 10:13:17

what a hero
thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.

Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.

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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby Slowhand » Sun Jun 23, 2013 10:23:13

Hong Kong, Russia, Cuba, Venezuela....must be hitting North Korea next week.
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby Luzinski's Gut » Sun Jun 23, 2013 10:23:16

Yes, he's a true patriot. Not.
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby The Nightman Cometh » Sun Jun 23, 2013 10:41:13

I honestly don't know where I stand with this. I think the way we are pursuing him is an embarrassment, and I think it's hard to put yourself in his shoes. Life in a supermax prison seems pretty shitty. He's obviously going to take help wherever you can get it.
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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby karn » Sun Jun 23, 2013 11:40:36

The variable right now for Snowden is to what extent did he expound on his intel to the Chinese government/agencies. At face value of what's been reported both here and in HK it only sounds like he confirmed what I'm sure they've known all along re: US hacks of Chinese infrastructure - basically tit for tat on what they've been doing to us. As far as what he's (thus far) told the Guardian and the Post, he's hardly endangered anyone by - again - simply CONFIRMING what a fistful of NSA whistleblowers had already been beating the drum on for quite a while now. Unless he's made it known through backchannels that he has truly devastating, or - more likely in my opinion - personally incriminating info and is threatening to disclose, then the circus over espionage and hunting him to the ends of the earth as some braindead Congressional types have suggested is pointless grandstanding by and for a dying breed.

There's now a large enough generation of millenials, raised online, who view the warrantless seizure of data (meta or otherwise) as far more treasonous, and, for them, the Snowdens and Mannings are, if not heroes (which, like traitor, is not really a defined concept for this generation anyway), far more in the right on this matter than Washington and its greedy cabal of baby boomer politicians and lobbyists. The dog and pony show of trying to cast him as a traitor to the republic or whatever nonsense is ridiculous.

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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby jerseyhoya » Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:34:39

The Nightman Cometh wrote:Good to read that people are too stupid to understand that climate change has more implications than rising temperatures.

Is that what you got from that article? Didn't seem to be what he was saying at all.

As the actual global temperatures deviate from the predicted warming from the models, the old scientific consensus on warming becomes less worth listening to because it's becoming more likely that their models failed to predict what is actually happening.

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Re: Fake and Real scandals, and Louie Gohmert Love Politics

Postby Phan In Phlorida » Sun Jun 23, 2013 16:16:03

Luzinski's Gut wrote:Yes, he's a true patriot. Not.

Rand Paul called him a hero :!:
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