“I explained to them a month ago that if Obama gets in office that the regulations for Obamacare are gonna hurt our business, and I’m gonna have to make provisions to make sure I have enough money to cover the payroll taxes, the additional health care I’m gonna have to do, and I explained that to them and I said you do what you feel like in your heart you need to do, but I’m just letting you know as a warning this is things I have to think of as a business owner.

“Well unfortunately, and most of my employees are Hispanic — I’m not gonna go into what kind of company I have, but I have mostly Hispanic employees — well unfortunately we know what happened and I can’t wait around anymore, I have to be proactive. I had to lay off 22 people today to make sure that my business is gonna thrive and I’m gonna be around for years to come. I have to build up that nest egg now for the taxes and regulations that are coming my way. Elections do have consequences, but so do choices. A choice you make every day has consequences and you know what, I’ve always put my employees first, but unfortunately today I have to put me and my family first, and you watch what’s gonna happen. I’m just one guy with 114 employees — well was 114 employees — watch what happens in the next six months. The Dow alone lost 314 points today. There’s a tsunami coming and if you didn’t think this election had consequences, just wait.”

TomatoPie wrote:Really great article in NYT by Kristof, on the failings of the GOP. Bottom line, just not enough angry white guys to carry the party.

Honks me off.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/08/opini ... adapt.html

Opposition to same-sex marriage used to be a way for Republicans to trumpet their morality; now it’s seen as highlighting their bigotry.

Your Majesty,

We, the people of the former American colonies, would like to offer our most sincere apology over that little misunderstanding we had 236 years ago. Had we known that we were going to be subjects anyway, we could have saved a lot of trouble and hard feelings.

We were under the mistaken belief that we would be free, sovereign citizens; we believed that our hard work would yield its own rewards without someone coming along and taking what we built in the name of "Fairness". We thought our laws and Constitution would protect us from a foreign born dictator, and our freedom to worship would prevent us from becoming a corrupt, morally bankrupt society (silly us).

Little did we know that our own free press would intentionally sabotage, deceive and withhold the truth from us in order to reelect a Socialist that still holds distain for our nation and contempt for its founding principles. Nor did we believe that there would be so many citizens dependent on government handouts that they would blindly elect an unqualified charlatan, let alone reelect him.

Anyway, Your Grace, we are truly sorry and humbly sincerely beg your forgiveness. If you can find it in your heart to forgive us and take us back, we promise never to trade British oppression for Socialist tyranny again.

Your most humble servants,

The American People

Now that Barack Obama has been reelected, how will the business climate change?
I think it’s going to be a negative climate for business. It’s going to be more of the same, and the same was terrible. I’m not optimistic. I’m going to work hard, try to turn lemons into lemonade, but I don’t see this economy turning around. I think it’s going to be worse in four years. I doubt if there will ever be another Republican president in my lifetime. We had the best candidate we could have had. We had some of the worst economic conditions in the country’s history. And we couldn’t get him elected.

Are you going to lay off employees as you suggested in your memo?
I don’t know. I’m going to work my hardest to keep the company going and expand the best I can. We’ll see what happens. Meanwhile I gave everybody in the company a raise this week—the average was 5 percent. I wanted to help them handle the additional burdens the government will put on them.

bleh wrote:Meanwhile 80% of Europe supported Obama over Romney.

Doll Is Mine wrote:Rich people are crybabies.

pacino wrote:

Grotewold wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:Have you guys ever watched Fox News or listened to conservative talk radio and heard them talk about moderate Republicans?

Oh, they certainly will rip a Republican going against another Republican, or holding up right-wing legislation. But Hannity and Rush would vociferously cheerlead for a complete moron facing a competent Democrat. I can't really see Maddow doing that.

moderate republicans are now independents. the idea of a moderate republican is a myth as this point.

bleh wrote:Meanwhile 80% of Europe supported Obama over Romney.

Werthless wrote:

pacino wrote:

Grotewold wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:Have you guys ever watched Fox News or listened to conservative talk radio and heard them talk about moderate Republicans?

Oh, they certainly will rip a Republican going against another Republican, or holding up right-wing legislation. But Hannity and Rush would vociferously cheerlead for a complete moron facing a competent Democrat. I can't really see Maddow doing that.

moderate republicans are now independents. the idea of a moderate republican is a myth as this point.

Wait, I thought there were no independents? Now you're telling me that moderate republicans are independents? Make up your mind!

pacino wrote:bad business owner fires 22 workers because obama won:

“I explained to them a month ago that if Obama gets in office that the regulations for Obamacare are gonna hurt our business, and I’m gonna have to make provisions to make sure I have enough money to cover the payroll taxes, the additional health care I’m gonna have to do, and I explained that to them and I said you do what you feel like in your heart you need to do, but I’m just letting you know as a warning this is things I have to think of as a business owner.

“Well unfortunately, and most of my employees are Hispanic — I’m not gonna go into what kind of company I have, but I have mostly Hispanic employees — well unfortunately we know what happened and I can’t wait around anymore, I have to be proactive. I had to lay off 22 people today to make sure that my business is gonna thrive and I’m gonna be around for years to come. I have to build up that nest egg now for the taxes and regulations that are coming my way. Elections do have consequences, but so do choices. A choice you make every day has consequences and you know what, I’ve always put my employees first, but unfortunately today I have to put me and my family first, and you watch what’s gonna happen. I’m just one guy with 114 employees — well was 114 employees — watch what happens in the next six months. The Dow alone lost 314 points today. There’s a tsunami coming and if you didn’t think this election had consequences, just wait.”

so his demand didn't instantly go down, but he cut down his supply instantly. what a fucking simpleton.

hurt your business on purpose and then blame obama for it. jesus christ.

Businesses with 50 or more employees must provide health insurance or pay a penalty. If the business fails to comply, the penalty is $2,000 for each full-time employee (with a 30-employee deduction.) Additionally, if the coverage offered is too expensive (defined as costing more than 9.5 percent of the employee’s household income), the penalty is $3,000 per employee who must buy insurance with a government subsidy.

jerseyhoya wrote:The Senate losses (ND and MT specifically) are somehow more depressing and surprising than the presidential election, which was close enough. The GOP needs to work harder to appeal to minority voters and young people and all that, but we couldn't even win races in Republican states where we had decent candidates.

jerseyhoya wrote:Long been predisposed to dislike Chris Matthews because he went to LaSalle, but I would hit him in the face with a baseball bat without any qualms at all. What a fucking cap on an embarrassing 5 year run for him.

mozartpc27 wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:Long been predisposed to dislike Chris Matthews because he went to LaSalle, but I would hit him in the face with a baseball bat without any qualms at all. What a fucking cap on an embarrassing 5 year run for him.

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