dumb question, but I don't attend religious services regularly: do your ministers/parsons/padres/preachers/reverends/rabbis/mullahs ever actually mention anything regarding upcoming elections, beyond "god bless the nation", or "heaven helps those who vote"?

drsmooth wrote:dumb question, but I don't attend religious services regularly: do your ministers/parsons/padres/preachers/reverends/rabbis/mullahs ever actually mention anything regarding upcoming elections, beyond "god bless the nation", or "heaven helps those who vote"?

From what I understand it's generally a direct message from the Almighty.

guys, stop picking on JH. He's already told us that he picks the polls that make him feel best. I applaud the honesty, conviction, and optimism.

drsmooth wrote:dumb question, but I don't attend religious services regularly: do your ministers/parsons/padres/preachers/reverends/rabbis/mullahs ever actually mention anything regarding upcoming elections, beyond "god bless the nation", or "heaven helps those who vote"?

some do. it just depends. my experience is, at least in christian churches, the more conservative the more likely they are to talk about it.

CalvinBall wrote:

drsmooth wrote:dumb question, but I don't attend religious services regularly: do your ministers/parsons/padres/preachers/reverends/rabbis/mullahs ever actually mention anything regarding upcoming elections, beyond "god bless the nation", or "heaven helps those who vote"?

some do. it just depends. my experience is, at least in christian churches, the more conservative the more likely they are to talk about it.

naming of names, or merely reference to issues? I'm trying to imagine the spiritual context

I mean I can see a person of the cloth reminding the flock that the church will drive shut-in parishioners to the polls if they want a ride, that coffee & pie will be available in the rectory on election day, or some other kind of functional/service thing, but not in the sermon

drsmooth wrote:

CalvinBall wrote:

drsmooth wrote:dumb question, but I don't attend religious services regularly: do your ministers/parsons/padres/preachers/reverends/rabbis/mullahs ever actually mention anything regarding upcoming elections, beyond "god bless the nation", or "heaven helps those who vote"?

some do. it just depends. my experience is, at least in christian churches, the more conservative the more likely they are to talk about it.

naming of names, or merely reference to issues? I'm trying to imagine the spiritual context

I mean I can see a person of the cloth reminding the flock that the church will drive shut-in parishioners to the polls if they want a ride, that coffee & pie will be available in the rectory on election day, or some other kind of functional/service thing, but not in the sermon

Election day sermons were quite common in New England in the 18th c.

http://www.ucc.org/ucnews/oct04/electio ... re-co.html

Youseff wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:Right but I don't like many of those polls so I try to ignore them. A lot of them really do have implausible takes on what the electorate will look like.

OH, WI, CO, VA, FL, IA, NH could go either way and I really wouldn't be surprised at all

MI, MN, PA, OR might not be quite as safe as the Dems would like to think

But you reference a relatively obscure poll to make your point? Sorry, I can't really take you seriously anymore.

Harry Enten ‏@ForecasterEnten
Ohio Newspaper Poll is a tie at 49-49
Harry Enten ‏@ForecasterEnten
This has historically been an EXCELLENT poll in Ohio. Calls cell phones. Live interviews.

And the ignoring the polls I don't like was a bit tongue in cheek. The polls with Obama up 3-5 in Ohio are all built off of different assumptions than the ones that have it tied. They're, for the most part, more optimistic for Dem turnout and pessimistic for GOP turnout than 2008. If their turnout/electorate composition is right, then Obama will win. I do not think that is likely, so I don't put much stake in them. Can't ignore them completely, but they've got to be taken with as big of a grain of salt as anything I predict.

Rick Klein ‏@rickklein
Biden headed to PA. MN tightening. So are OH & VA. Des Moines Register endorses Romney. Map tipping late in Mitt's direction...

ABC News' Washington editor. Biden to PA is interesting. Almost like some of those states aren't as safe as some of you assume.

no denying the Register's stellar track record for backing high-caliber Republican leadership

drsmooth wrote:no denying the Register's stellar track record for backing high-caliber Republican leadership

Hey, you better not besmirching the name of Tricky Dick Nixon - the last Republican endorsed by the Register.

why is biden in PA wierder than paul ryan in alabama earlier this week?

Sam Stein @samsteinhp
On Biden and his PA stop. Campaign is confident in the polls there. Framing this as a 'returning home' event.

i really don't think it's anything

td11 wrote:why is biden in PA wierder than paul ryan in alabama earlier this week?

Sam Stein @samsteinhp
On Biden and his PA stop. Campaign is confident in the polls there. Framing this as a 'returning home' event.

i really don't think it's anything

he was also in texas and georgia, noted swing-states

Everyone's likely read this already, but it fits pretty nicely into the convo this morning.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.co ... A24D2569B2

Ahhhhh...as I go to copy and paste relevant parts of the article it tells me I have to pay to keep reading. So, read for yourselves.

td11 wrote:why is biden in PA wierder than paul ryan in alabama earlier this week?

Sam Stein @samsteinhp
On Biden and his PA stop. Campaign is confident in the polls there. Framing this as a 'returning home' event.

i really don't think it's anything

Other than being from neighboring Delaware, I don't get the whole Joe Biden returning home to PA narrative. Newt Gingrich spent more time in PA growing up.

So did I. How are Newt and I relevant to Joe's going home?

cshort wrote:

td11 wrote:why is biden in PA wierder than paul ryan in alabama earlier this week?

Sam Stein @samsteinhp
On Biden and his PA stop. Campaign is confident in the polls there. Framing this as a 'returning home' event.

i really don't think it's anything

Other than being from neighboring Delaware, I don't get the whole Joe Biden returning home to PA narrative. Newt Gingrich spent more time in PA growing up.

PA dems love him

drsmooth wrote:

CalvinBall wrote:

drsmooth wrote:dumb question, but I don't attend religious services regularly: do your ministers/parsons/padres/preachers/reverends/rabbis/mullahs ever actually mention anything regarding upcoming elections, beyond "god bless the nation", or "heaven helps those who vote"?

some do. it just depends. my experience is, at least in christian churches, the more conservative the more likely they are to talk about it.

naming of names, or merely reference to issues? I'm trying to imagine the spiritual context

I mean I can see a person of the cloth reminding the flock that the church will drive shut-in parishioners to the polls if they want a ride, that coffee & pie will be available in the rectory on election day, or some other kind of functional/service thing, but not in the sermon

We need to vote for people who believe this to save out Christian nation kind of stuff. Mind you, I just visited places like this. Never went back after that.

If Harry enten believes in that poll seems like Romney winning is a certainty.

Who knew Bachman was right and god is punishing the political system with frankenstorm.

seem to be seeing a lot more romney signs/bumper stickers in my area lately. who are these people?