hardcore BATTLESHIP... the POLITICS thread

Re: hardcore BATTLESHIP... the POLITICS thread

Postby traderdave » Wed Oct 24, 2012 09:33:37

bleh wrote:
traderdave wrote:http://news.yahoo.com/us-may-soon-become-worlds-top-oil-producer-173753430--finance.html

Yeah, but the debates, and...14%, and...ah, forget it.

Does this mean we'll start a war against ourself?


How can we? We don't have any ships or planes.

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Re: hardcore BATTLESHIP... the POLITICS thread

Postby Wolfgang622 » Wed Oct 24, 2012 09:35:37

Werthless wrote:A report from the American Association of University Women shows that women are paid 7% less than men when controlling for major, job and hours.

http://money.cnn.com/2012/10/23/pf/coll ... ?iid=HP_LN


7% = still too much.
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Re: hardcore BATTLESHIP... the POLITICS thread

Postby pacino » Wed Oct 24, 2012 09:38:39

mozartpc27 wrote:
Werthless wrote:A report from the American Association of University Women shows that women are paid 7% less than men when controlling for major, job and hours.

http://money.cnn.com/2012/10/23/pf/coll ... ?iid=HP_LN


7% = still too much.

They'd just spend it on hair products and nail salon visits a d other lady bidness

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Re: hardcore BATTLESHIP... the POLITICS thread

Postby td11 » Wed Oct 24, 2012 09:39:47

traderdave wrote:
bleh wrote:
traderdave wrote:http://news.yahoo.com/us-may-soon-become-worlds-top-oil-producer-173753430--finance.html

Yeah, but the debates, and...14%, and...ah, forget it.

Does this mean we'll start a war against ourself?


How can we? We don't have any ships or planes.


speaking of,

In 1916, the US controlled roughly 11% of the world’s naval power. This is an impressive number that ranks the US third in naval strength behind the UK (34%) and Germany (19%), and just ahead of France (10%). What about the US navy in 2011? In 2011, the US controlled roughly 50% of the world’s naval power putting it in a comfortable lead in naval power ahead of Russia (11%).


http://themonkeycage.org/blog/2012/10/2 ... vy-really/
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Re: hardcore BATTLESHIP... the POLITICS thread

Postby Houshphandzadeh » Wed Oct 24, 2012 09:52:57

pacino wrote:omg would gary johnson destroy obama


and i wish this was the debate to run our country, not yesterday's

it's nice that he's very reasonable and has a good take on social issues, but his economic policies are still to just funnel everything to the top

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Re: hardcore BATTLESHIP... the POLITICS thread

Postby pacino » Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:04:33

Houshphandzadeh wrote:
pacino wrote:omg would gary johnson destroy obama


and i wish this was the debate to run our country, not yesterday's

it's nice that he's very reasonable and has a good take on social issues, but his economic policies are still to just funnel everything to the top

of course they are, and i wouldnt vote for him, but almost half of hte voting population is already voting for romney...how many people our age who cant imagine voting for romney would flip to a johnson-type?
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Re: hardcore BATTLESHIP... the POLITICS thread

Postby CalvinBall » Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:35:15

The transcript of the formerly off te record interview with the Des Moines Register is why I voted for Obama in te first place. Not sure why he hasn't talked like that publically. Cutter runs a shitty campaign.

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Re: hardcore BATTLESHIP... the POLITICS thread

Postby phatj » Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:47:54

mozartpc27 wrote:
Werthless wrote:A report from the American Association of University Women shows that women are paid 7% less than men when controlling for major, job and hours.

http://money.cnn.com/2012/10/23/pf/coll ... ?iid=HP_LN


7% = still too much.

Of course it is, but how do you fix it?
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Re: hardcore BATTLESHIP... the POLITICS thread

Postby Wolfgang622 » Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:52:25

phatj wrote:
mozartpc27 wrote:
Werthless wrote:A report from the American Association of University Women shows that women are paid 7% less than men when controlling for major, job and hours.

http://money.cnn.com/2012/10/23/pf/coll ... ?iid=HP_LN


7% = still too much.

Of course it is, but how do you fix it?


For one thing, you sign the Lilly Ledbetter Act. More employers need to FEAR the consequences of their bad behavior.
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Re: hardcore BATTLESHIP... the POLITICS thread

Postby phatj » Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:00:32

Sure. But gender pay discrimination strikes me as generally unproveable, except in cases of extreme idiocy. Particularly when the gap isn't very large. There are too many subjective factors in pay offered to new hires as well as raises.
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Re: hardcore BATTLESHIP... the POLITICS thread

Postby Houshphandzadeh » Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:02:16

I agree with j. all that would come out of that bill is a ton of litigation, imo

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Re: hardcore BATTLESHIP... the POLITICS thread

Postby pacino » Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:03:37

Houshphandzadeh wrote:I agree with j. all that would come out of that bill is a ton of litigation, imo

Well, it's been enacted for four years already.

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Re: hardcore BATTLESHIP... the POLITICS thread

Postby Bucky » Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:11:40

just cut all male's salaries by 7%

boom done

booking my flight to switzerland now

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Re: hardcore BATTLESHIP... the POLITICS thread

Postby pacino » Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:11:46

NYPD:
A paid informant for the New York Police Department's intelligence unit was under orders to "bait" Muslims into saying inflammatory things as he lived a double life, snapping pictures inside mosques and collecting the names of innocent people attending study groups on Islam, he told The Associated Press.

Shamiur Rahman, a 19-year-old American of Bangladeshi descent who has now denounced his work as an informant, said police told him to embrace a strategy called "create and capture." He said it involved creating a conversation about jihad or terrorism, then capturing the response to send to the NYPD. For his work, he earned as much as $1,000 a month and goodwill from the police after a string of minor marijuana arrests.

The AP corroborated Rahman's account through arrest records and weeks of text messages between Rahman and his police handler. The AP also reviewed the photos Rahman sent to police. Friends confirmed Rahman was at certain events when he said he was there, and former NYPD officials, while not personally familiar with Rahman, said the tactics he described were used by informants.

Informants like Rahman are a central component of the NYPD's wide-ranging programs to monitor life in Muslim neighborhoods since the 2001 terrorist attacks. Police officers have eavesdropped inside Muslim businesses, trained video cameras on mosques and collected license plates of worshippers. Informants who trawl the mosques — known informally as "mosque crawlers" — tell police what the imam says at sermons and provide police lists of attendees, even when there's no evidence they committed a crime

Rahman, who was born in Queens, said he never witnessed any criminal activity or saw anybody do anything wrong.
He said he sometimes intentionally misinterpreted what people had said. For example, Rahman said he would ask people what they thought about the attack on the U.S. Consulate in Libya, knowing the subject was inflammatory. It was easy to take statements out of context, he said. He said wanted to please his NYPD handler, whom he trusted and liked.

"I was trying to get money," Rahman said. "I was playing the game."

between this and stop-and-frisk, the NYPD is the scariest gang in NYC at this point. Well, for those committing the crime of existing while black/latino or muslim, that is.
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Re: hardcore BATTLESHIP... the POLITICS thread

Postby Soren » Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:14:56

yea the NYPD has done a pretty good job shitting all over themselves
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Re: hardcore BATTLESHIP... the POLITICS thread

Postby Youseff » Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:27:37

phatj wrote:Sure. But gender pay discrimination strikes me as generally unproveable, except in cases of extreme idiocy. Particularly when the gap isn't very large. There are too many subjective factors in pay offered to new hires as well as raises.


Same challenges apply for age & disabilities discrimination but they do make HR departments very conscious and deliberate in how they hire, promote & pay.
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Re: hardcore BATTLESHIP... the POLITICS thread

Postby Wolfgang622 » Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:37:26

I'd point out that unions are also a great way to deal with gender-gap issues. The union negotiates salary levels for all classes of employees under its contract, and they are applied across-the-board, regardless of gender. Or race, ethnicity, sexual orientation, species, or planet of origin.
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Re: hardcore BATTLESHIP... the POLITICS thread

Postby drsmooth » Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:53:01

getting confused now. Is Mourdock walking back his "rape, baby, rape" crack by admitting he is sick & twisted?

Only thing I DO know is Mitt stands behind what he said, whichever way he said it
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Re: hardcore BATTLESHIP... the POLITICS thread

Postby drsmooth » Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:55:30

Soren wrote:yea the NYPD has done a pretty good job shitting all over themselves
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Re: hardcore BATTLESHIP... the POLITICS thread

Postby td11 » Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:56:31

Nah romney camp disavowed those comments last night there is some pressure to un-endorse him or something, I guess
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