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Re: Random Thoughts With Extra Cheese and Pepperoni

Postby Youseff » Thu Jun 28, 2012 13:12:33

Houshphandzadeh wrote:I don't know, I think it's a little simplistic to just say 'It's comedy.' a good chunk of his audience doesn't consume it that way; they check in daily to feel updated on the news. maybe it's not his fault, but it's more than just comedy


ya, and that's kinda Stewart's defense mechanism. hey, the lead in for this is a cartoon where kids are farting on each other, etc. but you're right, he's much more than comedy he's satire, and he's smart enough to acknowledge the role that satire has had in shaping political opinions. Lenny Bruce, Jonathan Swift, Kubrick, etc.

I do appreciate what he does a lot of times, but maybe it's the contrast with Colbert that makes me view him as clumsy and inconsistent with his shtick.
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Re: Random Thoughts With Extra Cheese and Pepperoni

Postby Phan In Phlorida » Thu Jun 28, 2012 13:25:32

Youseff wrote:
SK790 wrote:
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Youseff wrote:I hate Republicans too, but Jon Stewart is kinda a hack.


wut


his portion of the show is essentially pointing out ludicrous and hypocritical statements by Fox and or Republicans, often times contrasting it with footage highlighting the individual or institution saying or doing the opposite under different circumstances. this is useful and I appreciate that, but lets not pretend lying and bullshit is fully the domain of the GOP & FOX. I'll admit I've seen him go after Obama, Corzine and a few others on the Dems side, but disproportionately so.

Ain't his fault that FOXNOOZ, GOP, et al provide a disproportionate amount of fodder.

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Re: Random Thoughts With Extra Cheese and Pepperoni

Postby swishnicholson » Thu Jun 28, 2012 13:25:42

I think we need to settle on a definition of "hack". It 's traditionally been used to apply to someone who sacrifices his integrity or beliefs in return for money. Youseff seems to be arguing a hack is someone who does allow his beliefs to infuse his work.

Words matter.
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Re: Random Thoughts With Extra Cheese and Pepperoni

Postby SK790 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 13:25:57

Stewart/Colbert are pretty much the way I get any news, but I don't act like I'm up to date on the news, either.
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Re: Random Thoughts With Extra Cheese and Pepperoni

Postby Houshphandzadeh » Thu Jun 28, 2012 13:27:22

for contrast, I don't think any of you guys buy Rush's "It's just entertainment" excuse when he lies and denigrates

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Re: Random Thoughts With Extra Cheese and Pepperoni

Postby td11 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 13:28:41

watching colbert/stewart is no worse than watching msnbc for three hours. no on watches cnn and foxnews is for unapologetic yet closet racists
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Re: Random Thoughts With Extra Cheese and Pepperoni

Postby td11 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 13:29:17

Houshphandzadeh wrote:for contrast, I don't think any of you guys buy Rush's "It's just entertainment" excuse when he lies and denigrates


colbert/stewart lie and denigrate? to the same extent that rush does?
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Re: Random Thoughts With Extra Cheese and Pepperoni

Postby Houshphandzadeh » Thu Jun 28, 2012 13:30:18

td11 wrote:
Houshphandzadeh wrote:for contrast, I don't think any of you guys buy Rush's "It's just entertainment" excuse when he lies and denigrates


colbert/stewart lie and denigrate? to the same extent that rush does?

not really, but if he did, I wouldn't accept "It's just comedy" as justification

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Re: Random Thoughts With Extra Cheese and Pepperoni

Postby Phan In Phlorida » Thu Jun 28, 2012 13:34:07

swishnicholson wrote:I think we need to settle on a definition of "hack". It 's traditionally been used to apply to someone who sacrifices his integrity or beliefs in return for money. Youseff seems to be arguing a hack is someone who does allow his beliefs to infuse his work.

Words matter.

"Hack" is what the cat did on the living room carpet last night, resulting with me yelling "sonuvabitch" when I stepped in it barefoot.

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Re: Random Thoughts With Extra Cheese and Pepperoni

Postby td11 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 13:34:43

well, yeah, if they were as bad as limbaugh, no one would be ok with the "it's just comedy" justification. and i don't even think stewart uses that as a defense until he's called out by foxnews' reporters/hosts and is forced to remind them that he doesn't tape his show under a giant neon FAIR AND BALANCED sign.

glen beck is a fucking hack, not jon stewart.
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Re: Random Thoughts With Extra Cheese and Pepperoni

Postby Bill McNeal » Thu Jun 28, 2012 13:42:33

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Re: Random Thoughts With Extra Cheese and Pepperoni

Postby Youseff » Thu Jun 28, 2012 13:46:31

retracting "is kinda a hack" and replacing with "is sloppy, inconsistent & kinda annoying (but I love Wyatt Cenac & John Oliver)"
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Re: Random Thoughts With Extra Cheese and Pepperoni

Postby The Nightman Cometh » Thu Jun 28, 2012 14:00:34

Rush Limbaugh is on a dry AM radio station. Stewart is on comedy central.
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Re: Random Thoughts With Extra Cheese and Pepperoni

Postby swishnicholson » Thu Jun 28, 2012 14:29:44

The Sugar Daddy candy was originally called the Papa Sucker.
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Re: Random Thoughts With Extra Cheese and Pepperoni

Postby Bucky » Thu Jun 28, 2012 14:35:27

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Re: Random Thoughts With Extra Cheese and Pepperoni

Postby Soren » Thu Jun 28, 2012 14:40:05

hey guys I'm in the middle of my first Obama care argument on facebook!
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Re: Random Thoughts With Extra Cheese and Pepperoni

Postby SK790 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 14:52:08

I like teh waether

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Re: Random Thoughts With Extra Cheese and Pepperoni

Postby td11 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 14:57:15

Soren wrote:hey guys I'm in the middle of my first Obama care argument on facebook!


some of these are jokes, but
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Re: Random Thoughts With Extra Cheese and Pepperoni

Postby td11 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 14:57:28

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Re: Random Thoughts With Extra Cheese and Pepperoni

Postby SK790 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 15:01:42

:-D
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