pacino wrote:The budget does nothing...to actually fund it you need to pass all sorts of good little things which are then filibustered.

I like that. Unblinking in being shown to be completely wrong, staying on the attack against the GOP. Message discipline is strong.

I've never been accused of message discipline. Ironic. A federal budget resolution is not the be all and end all...actually funding bills is what matters.

sheeple

pacino wrote:The budget does nothing...to actually fund it you need to pass all sorts of good little things which are then filibustered.

I know it has been a long time since a budget was passed, but this is not true. It is a pretty easy concept to consider that if you have no budget you then have no plan and if you have no plan then failure is well within reach. There is no need for appropriations or plus ups or any additives, but it is logical that there needs to be a plan otherwise all there is left is a quagmire. Lets face it, there is no metric for success without a plan, but failure is easy to define.

The fact is that the Government has no idea what it can do at a functional level. If they spend today, what opportunity have they lost tomorrow. How do you prioritize in that scenario? How do you function? What is happening is that come August all sorts of rash decisions are made to expend funds so that they do not negatively effect next years funds (use it or lose it, and when it is lost it is deducted from the next years budget as unnecessary). More damning is that basic research is being compromised. The idea that companies will take a risk on a good idea that may never be funded even if it is massively useful to a world government is untenable risk, thus those programs are either never launched or a patent is filed just in case. Even 10 years ago the Government funded quality research that has impacts on our lives, but that is dead and the commercial risk is too great to make a push for something that's natural first market, the Government, is excluded due to fiscal paralysis. Then, if these monies do break free they get programmed into the only waiting arms that can spin quickly enough to take the fund onto existing contracts which is generally the big primes (where innovation goes to die) or academia (where innovation exists as long as your students are around to do some work).

Overall, however, there is abject fear of being noticed for taking a risk and that risk might end up on the front page or in a senators speech about waste, therefore inaction is the best path. It is better to have taken no risk and purchased $2M worth of inkjet toner and paper then to push innovation to actual solve a problem. Lead on to the bottom Congress, lead us onward.

this was a good read

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/15/us/po ... ml?_r=2&hp

barry cracks 50%

also the gop is going with the payroll tax cut extension

It's interesting that recent polling doesn't give Romney an advantage over Santorum in head to head polling (actually Santorum does a bit better) but Gingrich does about 5-10 percentage points worse than either of them.

I think you've got to consider the shift to social issues as an important factor in Obama's recent rise. Especially since it's not abortion, but rather collateral issues like birth control and in a weird way the Susan G. Komen flap that have hurt. Because again and again, the arguments have nothing to do with life and everything to do with punishing women, especially women who have sex.

Romney's already taken a lot of fire. If Santorum's views and history, particularly his obsession with sex and total disavowal of a right to privacy, were as well known as Mitt now is, I doubt his "electability" would compare favorably to Romney's.

He's also not nearly as smart as Romney--which perhaps doesn't much matter to Republican primary voters, but would count big-time in the fall, and of course in the actual job.

jerseyhoya wrote:The House passed Ryan's budget last year. Harry Reid hasn't passed a budget in the past three years.

Yea, those 2 situations are pretty much identical

and Ryan's budget didn't pass the senate! omg fail lololol

drsmooth wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:The House passed Ryan's budget last year. Harry Reid hasn't passed a budget in the past three years.

Yea, those 2 situations are pretty much identical

Well they're different because the House passed a budget but the Senate didn't

jerseyhoya wrote:

drsmooth wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:The House passed Ryan's budget last year. Harry Reid hasn't passed a budget in the past three years.

Yea, those 2 situations are pretty much identical

Well they're different because the House passed a budget but the Senate didn't

I know you're out there, I can hear you breathing thru your mouth

but seriously, if the genial psycho VA gov McDonnell signs that "life begins at conception" legislation as he has promised, I will send money to the 1st woman who sues VA for the lifetime of pain & suffering she purportedly will endure should that "conceived life" VA will insist upon inspecting via ultrasound "expires" while the commonwealth of Virginia stood idly by, failing to take every available measure to thwart the manslaughter nature visited on the unfortunate cellular clump.

but I'll only send money if it is used to purchase a brick with which to remove one of the governor's incisors.

drsmooth wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:

drsmooth wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:The House passed Ryan's budget last year. Harry Reid hasn't passed a budget in the past three years.

Yea, those 2 situations are pretty much identical

Well they're different because the House passed a budget but the Senate didn't

I know you're out there, I can hear you breathing thru your mouth

Can you use small words and speak in English and explain it to me?

jerseyhoya wrote:

drsmooth wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:

drsmooth wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:The House passed Ryan's budget last year. Harry Reid hasn't passed a budget in the past three years.

Yea, those 2 situations are pretty much identical

Well they're different because the House passed a budget but the Senate didn't

I know you're out there, I can hear you breathing thru your mouth

Can you use small words and speak in English and explain it to me?

not this again

You brought it on yourself by calling a fellow board member a mouth breather. That insult should be reserved for Mets fans.

Werthless wrote:You brought it on yourself by calling a fellow board member a mouth breather. That insult should be reserved for Mets fans.

werthless, you're right. and when you're right, you're right.



I'm sorry jerz. I was wrong to write what I wrote. Political discourse is squalid enough. Political actors suggest other political actors are "nazis" all the time - but you never hear them stoop so low as to compare one another to mets fans.

this bad attitude thing happens to me every pre-spring training - and a day earlier every year.