It's Newt's World, We're Just Living In It, Politics Thread

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Postby pacino » Mon Jan 23, 2012 23:29:01

ron paul's fake eyebrows are totally scary and off-center tonight
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Re: It's Newt's World, We're Just Living In It, Politics Thr

Postby drsmooth » Mon Jan 23, 2012 23:41:09

one of Mitt's 7 pillars: "eliminate crony capitalism"

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Re: It's Newt's World, We're Just Living In It, Politics Thr

Postby Wolfgang622 » Mon Jan 23, 2012 23:41:56

My impression of Romney, well before this election cycle got under way, was that he was a born loser. On Sunday, I heard a a startling statistic about Romney, courtesy of George Will: of the last 19 election in which he was a candidate, he has won 6.

That line about losing to Ted Kennedy, but forcing him to take a mortgage out on his house - a line he keeps repeating - is sort of indicative of why he keeps failing.

I think he is a dead man now. Sputh Carolina hurt him, it made Gingrich the likely winner in Florida. In turn, that will probably be enough to get Gingrich the necessary momentum to be the nominee.

I always thought Romney would at least get the nomination this time. I don't think he will now.
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Re: It's Newt's World, We're Just Living In It, Politics Thr

Postby Wolfgang622 » Mon Jan 23, 2012 23:49:45

Man, that answer from Mitt about paying his taxes... about he didn't pay a penny more, and how no one would want a candidate for president who paid extra... is just... wow.

He's a dead duck.
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Re: It's Newt's World, We're Just Living In It, Politics Thr

Postby Phan In Phlorida » Tue Jan 24, 2012 04:07:43

mozartpc27 wrote:Sputh Carolina

I know it's just a typo, but I would so fully endorse changing its name to this. For reals.

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Re: It's Newt's World, We're Just Living In It, Politics Thr

Postby pacino » Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:09:20

Governor Martin O'Malley of Maryland put up a marriage equality bill. Yay

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Re: It's Newt's World, We're Just Living In It, Politics Thr

Postby traderdave » Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:25:49

Sarah Palin vs. Chris Christie; I like Christie's chances:

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/0 ... istie.html

As an aside, I had a school board meeting last night so I missed the GOP debate but the summaries on TV seemed like nothing big really happened other than Romney "attacking" Gingrich on his Fannie/Freddie release. The stuff you guys posted above seems like it could be a big deal. Does Newt really think he is getting into the White House by letting millionnaires evade paying taxes altogether?

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Re: It's Newt's World, We're Just Living In It, Politics Thr

Postby pacino » Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:30:08

^even Romney was like 'but I'd pay no taxes newt! '

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Re: It's Newt's World, We're Just Living In It, Politics Thr

Postby pacino » Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:31:58

In regards to marriage equality in pa, it might be a 'good' thing for Corbett to be here from three more years. Maybe we'll get a new Democratic governor then and the state will be caught up by that time to pass a bill. The legislature is in no position to do it now.

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Re: It's Newt's World, We're Just Living In It, Politics Thr

Postby Grotewold » Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:32:53

traderdave wrote:Sarah Palin vs. Chris Christie; I like Christie's chances:

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/0 ... istie.html


Could have done without "Chris Christie" and "panties" ever appearing in the same sentence

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Re: It's Newt's World, We're Just Living In It, Politics Thr

Postby thephan » Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:45:08

What the hell does Romney not understand about flaunting your financial success is poor form? He is almost like, I am the 1% so STFU and kiss my ring. I am sure it has been posted, but I saw somewhere that Romeny had a lot of money in Fannie and Freddie, he was just looking for a score with a better tax holiday.

In fairness, Mitt did have a bad year. 2011 only netted $20.9M versus $21.7M for 2010. All of that is from investments comprised of Dividends and Interest, but not one penny came from wages. I applaud the $7M in charitable contributions, but you need to wonder about the $6.2M in taxes in the light of the capital gains rate. For laughs, lets say Mitt made 5%, like most of us dream of right now, so that would say that he has more then $400M in investments.

Would someone please give me a candidate I want to vote for?!?!
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Re: It's Newt's World, We're Just Living In It, Politics Thr

Postby traderdave » Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:53:26

Grotewold wrote:
traderdave wrote:Sarah Palin vs. Chris Christie; I like Christie's chances:

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/0 ... istie.html


Could have done without "Chris Christie" and "panties" ever appearing in the same sentence


Seriously. After all, that is McGreevey's bit. Hey ohhhhh!

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Re: It's Newt's World, We're Just Living In It, Politics Thr

Postby Stay_Disappointed » Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:05:05

mozartpc27 wrote:Man, that answer from Mitt about paying his taxes... about he didn't pay a penny more, and how no one would want a candidate for president who paid extra... is just... wow.

He's a dead duck.


Yeah I already accept he's completely out of touch with most Americans, but does he have a campaign manager? Advisors? Anything?
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Re: It's Newt's World, We're Just Living In It, Politics Thr

Postby drsmooth » Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:06:01

traderdave wrote:Sarah Palin vs. Chris Christie; I like Christie's chances:

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/0 ... istie.html

As an aside, I had a school board meeting last night so I missed the GOP debate but the summaries on TV seemed like nothing big really happened other than Romney "attacking" Gingrich on his Fannie/Freddie release. The stuff you guys posted above seems like it could be a big deal. Does Newt really think he is getting into the White House by letting millionnaires evade paying taxes altogether?


My feeling is the cap gains tax issue was & is a loser for both men, in that it reveals, more tangibly than their conventional political adversaries are often able to do, their mutual cluelessness about how 'alien' their economic circumstances are to average Americans.
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Re: It's Newt's World, We're Just Living In It, Politics Thr

Postby TenuredVulture » Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:06:46

On Newt and Fannie/Freddie--someone should just point out that hiring Newt didn't work out very well for either of those organizations.
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Re: It's Newt's World, We're Just Living In It, Politics Thr

Postby Bucky » Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:12:30

Warszawa wrote:
mozartpc27 wrote:Man, that answer from Mitt about paying his taxes... about he didn't pay a penny more, and how no one would want a candidate for president who paid extra... is just... wow.

He's a dead duck.


Yeah I already accept he's completely out of touch with most Americans, but does he have a campaign manager? Advisors? Anything?


you don't stay rich by creating jobs AMIRITE

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Re: It's Newt's World, We're Just Living In It, Politics Thr

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:24:03

thephan wrote:What the hell does Romney not understand about flaunting your financial success is poor form? He is almost like, I am the 1% so STFU and kiss my ring. I am sure it has been posted, but I saw somewhere that Romeny had a lot of money in Fannie and Freddie, he was just looking for a score with a better tax holiday.

In fairness, Mitt did have a bad year. 2011 only netted $20.9M versus $21.7M for 2010. All of that is from investments comprised of Dividends and Interest, but not one penny came from wages. I applaud the $7M in charitable contributions, but you need to wonder about the $6.2M in taxes in the light of the capital gains rate. For laughs, lets say Mitt made 5%, like most of us dream of right now, so that would say that he has more then $400M in investments.

Would someone please give me a candidate I want to vote for?!?!

Isn't the $7M primarily just his tithes to the Mormon Church?

Edit: Yup, combined $4.1M in cash payments to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-01-24/candidate-romney-s-tax-returns-show-7-million-in-donations-over-two-years.html
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Re: It's Newt's World, We're Just Living In It, Politics Thr

Postby lethal » Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:25:06

10%, so probably about 4 mil over 2 years.

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Re: It's Newt's World, We're Just Living In It, Politics Thr

Postby traderdave » Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:29:00

Yeah, I really cannot believe how easy Romney and Santorum are on Gingrich. I put "attacked" in quotes above because what I saw of Romney last night bringing up the Fannie/Freddie stuff was hard bulldog-type politics. Romney seemed almost embarrassed to even be mentioning it. Every time Gingrich uses the "When I was speaker, we had four consecutive balanced budgets" line, I expect somebody to say "Not only does your comment misrepresent facts, it also fails to mention that you are the only House Speaker in American history to be reprimanded for ethics violations".

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Re: It's Newt's World, We're Just Living In It, Politics Thr

Postby thephan » Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:59:09

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:Would someone please give me a candidate I want to vote for?!?!

Isn't the $7M primarily just his tithes to the Mormon Church?

Edit: Yup, combined $4.1M in cash payments to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-01-24/candidate-romney-s-tax-returns-show-7-million-in-donations-over-two-years.html[/quote]

I am unfamiliar with how the LDS spend what they take in. If there is some amount of good being done that is not self serving, I am fine with that. There is a church near me that has a sizable congregation and explodes at Christmas and Easter. They make a point of giving everything away for those two holidays. The collected like $175K at Christmas and turned it over to an orphanage and hospital in Africa, a local clinic, food programs, etc. I am not sure how much they collect during the year, but their finger prints are all over the local charity scene. So if the LDS do some good with that money and spend it with low administrative overhead, then I am good with that. Too bad Mitt sucks as a human, strike that a GOP-ish (they don't see to like him either) robot.
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