TenuredVulture wrote:Well, there goes Romney's bid for the Presidency. He's done. (I understand the calculation here, but he's not going to convince any of the Pawlenty or Bachmann supporter that he's one of them.)
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Re: Politics: The Arse of the Unpossible
by jerseyhoya » Mon Aug 01, 2011 21:59:17
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Re: Politics: The Arse of the Unpossible
by TenuredVulture » Mon Aug 01, 2011 22:04:45
No. Romney is the Republican Dukakis. This is like when Dukakis rode in that tank. (Romney might be the Republican Hubert Humphrey--and that makes Bachmann the Republican McGovern, and Obama the Democrat Nixon. But you can push an analogy only so far.)
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Re: Politics: The Arse of the Unpossible
by TenuredVulture » Mon Aug 01, 2011 22:09:05
JH, my comment was really a more colorful pundit like version of your own--the analysis matches (pandering to the R base) but I just went a bit further and made the claim it won't work, in part because that group of people is never going to get on board with Mitt, and he's now alienating the establishment base which was his only hope.
Now, to be sure, I've never thought Romney would be President. He was outcampaigned by Huckabee, for heaven's sake.
Now, to be sure, I've never thought Romney would be President. He was outcampaigned by Huckabee, for heaven's sake.
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Re: Politics: The Arse of the Unpossible
by Wolfgang622 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 22:50:39
TenuredVulture wrote:No. Romney is the Republican Dukakis.
Funny you should say this. I don't know about this particular instance, but I've been thinking that is exactly what he reminds me of both in general demeanor and even looks kinda. Both former governors of Massachusetts too.
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Re: Politics: The Arse of the Unpossible
by drsmooth » Tue Aug 02, 2011 00:33:47
mozartpc27 wrote:he reminds me of both in general demeanor and even looks kinda.
can't say that I'm seeing that
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Re: Politics: The Arse of the Unpossible
by jerseyhoya » Tue Aug 02, 2011 02:44:42
If a vaguely serious Dem challenger to Obama were to emerge right now, that would be awesome. Seems like I'm seeing for people calling for it all over the place.
Obviously there's no chance he wouldn't be renominated comfortably, but the left seems angry and a public, confrontational bitch fit would be entertaining.
Obviously there's no chance he wouldn't be renominated comfortably, but the left seems angry and a public, confrontational bitch fit would be entertaining.
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Re: Politics: The Arse of the Unpossible
by jerseyhoya » Tue Aug 02, 2011 03:33:49
The Marco Rubio clip from the other day went viral and it needed to appear in my twitter feed about 20x before I decided to invest the 14 minutes in watching it
Really looking forward to him being President
Really looking forward to him being President
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Re: Politics: The Arse of the Unpossible
by drsmooth » Tue Aug 02, 2011 09:46:11
wow, thanks for sharing that
what an insipid prick
he''ll never be president
what an insipid prick
he''ll never be president
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Re: Politics: The Arse of the Unpossible
by jerseyhoya » Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:21:10
President Obama has seen his popularity dip significantly in the pivotal swing state of Pennsylvania and is now tied in matchups with former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and former Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa., according to a new Quinnipiac University poll released early Tuesday.
A majority of Keystone State voters now disapproves of the job Obama is doing as president. Just 43 percent of voters approve of his job performance, while 54 percent disapprove. That marks a significant decline from mid-June, when voters were split evenly on Obama.
Romney holds a 44-42 percent lead over Obama, reversing a seven-point edge for the president in June. Santorum now trails Obama, 45 percent to 43 percent; in June, he trailed by 11 points.
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Re: Politics: The Arse of the Unpossible
by Wolfgang622 » Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:21:16
jerseyhoya wrote:President Obama has seen his popularity dip significantly in the pivotal swing state of Pennsylvania and is now tied in matchups with former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and former Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa., according to a new Quinnipiac University poll released early Tuesday.
A majority of Keystone State voters now disapproves of the job Obama is doing as president. Just 43 percent of voters approve of his job performance, while 54 percent disapprove. That marks a significant decline from mid-June, when voters were split evenly on Obama.
Romney holds a 44-42 percent lead over Obama, reversing a seven-point edge for the president in June. Santorum now trails Obama, 45 percent to 43 percent; in June, he trailed by 11 points.
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Re: Politics: The Arse of the Unpossible
by Wolfgang622 » Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:21:47
drsmooth wrote:mozartpc27 wrote:he reminds me of both in general demeanor and even looks kinda.
can't say that I'm seeing that
It's the graying at the temples and the "I'm a born loser" stench to both of them.
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Re: Politics: The Arse of the Unpossible
by MoBettle » Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:40:46
Two days later I get a text back that says I'm a basketball player and a businessman, not a Thundercat.
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Re: Politics: The Arse of the Unpossible
by Wolfgang622 » Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:45:34
MoBettle wrote:http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/images/08/02/rel12a.pdf
14% approval rating for Congress. wow
Isn't it always hovering around there?
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Re: Politics: The Arse of the Unpossible
by MoBettle » Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:48:56
it was 26 in january
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Re: Politics: The Arse of the Unpossible
by dajafi » Tue Aug 02, 2011 13:16:45
While we're comparing Romney to losers from Massachusetts, let me suggest he most closely resembles John Kerry.
Seems vaguely presidential. Not the "fall in love" choice of his party, but a viable "fall in line" option. Can raise money. By no means stupid. But has things in his past that will trigger deep unease among swing voters, generally gives the impression of a man who combines sky-high self-regard with the absence of any core convictions, and loses the "rather have a beer with" contest because you literally can't imagine him relaxing in any way you would.
Now, I used to think Kerry lost because Rove managed to make the election a referendum on Kerry's character rather than Bush's performance. But the economic fundamentals in 2004 were a bit more favorable to Bush than I realized at the time--and it was still the closest win for an incumbent in decades. I think that if he's the nominee, Plouffe will similarly try to make the race about Romney's character rather than Obama's performance. But with the economy in much worse shape, it won't work unless he somehow shores up his base to something close to 2008 levels.
That said, if Romney isn't the Republican nominee, I have no idea what will happen.
Seems vaguely presidential. Not the "fall in love" choice of his party, but a viable "fall in line" option. Can raise money. By no means stupid. But has things in his past that will trigger deep unease among swing voters, generally gives the impression of a man who combines sky-high self-regard with the absence of any core convictions, and loses the "rather have a beer with" contest because you literally can't imagine him relaxing in any way you would.
Now, I used to think Kerry lost because Rove managed to make the election a referendum on Kerry's character rather than Bush's performance. But the economic fundamentals in 2004 were a bit more favorable to Bush than I realized at the time--and it was still the closest win for an incumbent in decades. I think that if he's the nominee, Plouffe will similarly try to make the race about Romney's character rather than Obama's performance. But with the economy in much worse shape, it won't work unless he somehow shores up his base to something close to 2008 levels.
That said, if Romney isn't the Republican nominee, I have no idea what will happen.
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Re: Politics: The Arse of the Unpossible
by The Nightman Cometh » Tue Aug 02, 2011 13:52:09
I imagine being Mormon might not be entirely helpful with the religious whacks on the right.
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Re: Politics: The Arse of the Unpossible
by 5th Round Pick » Tue Aug 02, 2011 14:13:17
What's this thread think of Rick Perry as a potential Republican candidate? Does he have a chance to win the nomination? Who would be his biggest Republican competitors?
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Re: Politics: The Arse of the Unpossible
by CFP » Tue Aug 02, 2011 14:38:49
Mother fucker Gillibrand voted no, hot damn
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Re: Politics: The Arse of the Unpossible
by Phan In Phlorida » Tue Aug 02, 2011 14:59:10
mozartpc27 wrote:jerseyhoya wrote:President Obama has seen his popularity dip significantly in the pivotal swing state of Pennsylvania and is now tied in matchups with former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and former Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa., according to a new Quinnipiac University poll released early Tuesday.
A majority of Keystone State voters now disapproves of the job Obama is doing as president. Just 43 percent of voters approve of his job performance, while 54 percent disapprove. That marks a significant decline from mid-June, when voters were split evenly on Obama.
Romney holds a 44-42 percent lead over Obama, reversing a seven-point edge for the president in June. Santorum now trails Obama, 45 percent to 43 percent; in June, he trailed by 11 points.
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Re: Politics: The Arse of the Unpossible
by CFP » Tue Aug 02, 2011 15:11:47
Phan In Phlorida wrote:mozartpc27 wrote:jerseyhoya wrote:President Obama has seen his popularity dip significantly in the pivotal swing state of Pennsylvania and is now tied in matchups with former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and former Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa., according to a new Quinnipiac University poll released early Tuesday.
A majority of Keystone State voters now disapproves of the job Obama is doing as president. Just 43 percent of voters approve of his job performance, while 54 percent disapprove. That marks a significant decline from mid-June, when voters were split evenly on Obama.
Romney holds a 44-42 percent lead over Obama, reversing a seven-point edge for the president in June. Santorum now trails Obama, 45 percent to 43 percent; in June, he trailed by 11 points.
Santorum-entum
Rick Santorum LOL
Last paragraph... zOMG!
I did not know that. Holy shit. Is that true?
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