"I gotta ask the supporters of all that, 'How's that hopey, changey thing working out for ya", Sarah Palin 2010

Was her speech about the lack of need for literacy? Was it a push for finishing the job of eroding America's credibility? I put in my vote to vote her off the island permanently

"GRAMMAR, n. A system of pitfalls thoughtfully prepared for the feet for the self-made man, along the path by which he advances to distinction."
- Ambrose Bierce

She should have never advanced beyond the local school board or the PTA, let alone even be considered a viable presidential candidate.

i hope she gets hit by the goddam bus. or just wins. let tennessee, alabama, mississippi, louisiana, and west virginia drive the country. they know what's up.

I can't wait for there to be some sort of defense, like, "well, at least she didn't need every word spelled out in front of her." Also, I can't wait for this next round of Palin mania to play out so we're distracted from actual problems this country has. She's the political equivalent of reality TV.

The media won't even mention the crib notes. They're propping her up for 2012 because she's an entertaining story. John McCain should be ashamed for unleashing this moron.

what is that from? i can see energy and tax. what does the rest of it say?

life american spirits


Would I normally care? No. It's just funny that she rails on the President using a teleprompter and then needs simple reminders like this to be literally written on her hand. Sheesh. Does she really want to get into a debate with him? I think we all know the answer to that.

CalvinBall wrote:what is that from? i can see energy and tax. what does the rest of it say?

I think I see "pick up milk"

in fairness, multimillion dollar NFL QBs headed for teh HoF work off sharpie notes all the time. Why not cut hack politicians some slack?

She should have an opening cut out of the left arm of her suits with her script.

PS. "Lift American spirits"

kopphanatic wrote:The media won't even mention the crib notes. They're propping her up for 2012 because she's an entertaining story. John McCain should be ashamed for unleashing this moron.

As I am want, I searched for mentions of "Palin" on the board and looked at the first mentions to see what people were saying back in the day. There are some interesting characterizations of McCain's pick of Palin, including "genius", "pretty cool pick", "I really think this wraps it up for McCain", "I believe she'll be a net positive on the McCain campaign", "Bravo," and "Brilliant pick."

I didn't expect to see this as the first quote about her (from December 2007):

dajafi wrote:

TenuredVulture wrote:I was thinking today while I was on the elliptical trainer that I might vote for McCain over Hillary.

In your state it might actually matter--though I suspect McCain would defeat Sen. Clinton rather easily, especially if he was smart enough to pick a moderate running mate (NOT Holy Joe Lieberman--someone like, though I know it won't be her, Sarah Palin)

Dave, did I kick your dog or give you the virtual stink-eye or something?

Palin's rep was as a moderate through her first year in office. She was actually the "reform" candidate in the 2006 Alaska gubernatorial race, against the incumbent Murkowski. I didn't know much about her, obviously, and that's what I was going on. If you knew what she was about back then, kudos.

If it would save time, I'd be happy to list everything else I've been wrong about on record at BSG. There's a lot, I promise. I think I even kind of liked the Eaton signing, and I know I thought Jenkins was a good add.

dajafi wrote:Dave, did I kick your dog or give you the virtual stink-eye or something?

Palin's rep was as a moderate through her first year in office. She was actually the "reform" candidate in the 2006 Alaska gubernatorial race, against the incumbent Murkowski. I didn't know much about her, obviously, and that's what I was going on. If you knew what she was about back then, kudos.

If it would save time, I'd be happy to list everything else I've been wrong about on record at BSG. There's a lot, I promise. I think I even kind of liked the Eaton signing, and I know I thought Jenkins was a good add.

I'm sorry, I just thought it was funny. I didn't mean to make you angry. I thought you would laugh it off. I put the date on there to make it clear that this was WAY before anyone knew much about her.

Honestly, I did the search looking for what people who supported McCain were saying about her back then and I put your quote up there to remind myself and everyone else that she was highly regarded by people across the political spectrum before she was selected for VP.

Excellent signature phdave, I'm glad you realize how TERRIBLE that Hitler video you did was. Now if we can get you to stop googling every word that was said in 1997, we might really be able to put your phd to good use.

Did someone actually say they thought it wrapped it up for McCain?

I still think it was a cool pick, insofar as they had the right idea to pick someone outside the box that appealed to the base. They probably should have vetted her, and then they would have picked someone not named Sarah Palin who hopefully checked some of those boxes.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/04/us/po ... ork&st=cse

NYT article on the formation of the new center-right "American Action Network", meant to be a counterpoint to Podesta's Center for American Progress.

Notable IMO since it goes to show there are some players in the GOP who don't want to be defined by the Tea Party movement. Though really it caught my attention mainly because I've always admired Holtz-Eakin.

And then there's this also:

And Mr. Langone, one of the early donors, said he had been assured that “we’re not going to go near the social issues.”

I know people go to see Palin at rallies and tune in to see her on talk shows and whatnot, but the visceral hatred for her is hysterical. Maybe it's because I'm here and not there, but I get the impression there's easily a 3 to 1 ratio of people who talk about her that hate her than like her. Most of it is "Look How Hip And Left And Smart I Am" re-affirm my cred to the echo-chamber stuff, but some people are damn near obsessed with her.

TheBrig wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/04/us/politics/04conservative.html?scp=1&sq=american%20action%20network&st=cse

NYT article on the formation of the new center-right "American Action Network", meant to be a counterpoint to Podesta's Center for American Progress.

Notable IMO since it goes to show there are some players in the GOP who don't want to be defined by the Tea Party movement. Though really it caught my attention mainly because I've always admired Holtz-Eakin.

And then there's this also:

And Mr. Langone, one of the early donors, said he had been assured that “we’re not going to go near the social issues.”

What's funny, though I guess not surprising, is that CAP itself was created as a response to the Heritage Foundation which had been evaluated as more effective in operationalizing policy research to political/governing action than think tanks like Brookings or Urban Institute (which took their professed commitments to non-partisanship much more seriously). It's very likely that neither Heritage nor CAP has had all that much to do with the successes their parties have enjoyed over the last 30 years, though it's always helpful to have stuff to talk about.

At his best/least hack-ish, Holtz-Eakin is indeed pretty good. If he can add some substance to the conversation, God bless. I just worry that there's no political incentive for anyone on either side, but especially on the Republican side, to take governance questions seriously. Look at Paul Ryan: he puts out an actually meaty budget proposal, and immediately the Democrats start fear-mongering around it and his Republican colleagues run away from it. The Ds see this, with justification, as payback for the "death panel" smears and so many other acts of political hypocrisy and opportunism, but it just perpetuates the vapid cycle.

phdave wrote:"I believe she'll be a net positive on the McCain campaign"

I think this might have ended up being true, though she probably ended up having something closer to a neutral effect on the ticket. If you think Vox or me or whoever said that was so wrong that the statement is worthy of derision, you're not right.