Is There A BETTER Day to Start the New Politics Thread?

Postby jerseyhoya » Mon May 17, 2010 21:27:26

Damn filing deadline isn't till late June. They can get him to drop out.

Edit: It's actually next week. This is going to be an interesting week.

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Postby jerseyhoya » Tue May 18, 2010 00:07:30

Arlen Specter is going to lose an election today. :-D

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Postby jerseyhoya » Tue May 18, 2010 08:20:09

Wonder how rain effects the race. Probably not a whole hell of a lot either way.

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Postby drsmooth » Tue May 18, 2010 08:39:40

jerseyhoya wrote:Candidate’s Words Differ From His History

Oh my word

At a ceremony honoring veterans and senior citizens who sent presents to soldiers overseas, Attorney General Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut rose and spoke of an earlier time in his life.

“We have learned something important since the days that I served in Vietnam,” Mr. Blumenthal said to the group gathered in Norwalk in March 2008. “And you exemplify it. Whatever we think about the war, whatever we call it — Afghanistan or Iraq — we owe our military men and women unconditional support.”

There was one problem: Mr. Blumenthal, a Democrat now running for the United States Senate, never served in Vietnam. He obtained at least five military deferments from 1965 to 1970 and took repeated steps that enabled him to avoid going to war, according to records.

The deferments allowed Mr. Blumenthal to complete his studies at Harvard; pursue a graduate fellowship in England; serve as a special assistant to The Washington Post’s publisher, Katharine Graham; and ultimately take a job in the Nixon White House.


Wow, 2008, & nothing was said about it then, that I recall (I live in CT).

The guy's never had trouble finding the cameras/microphones (a minor-league Chuck Shumer in that respect), but hasn't done too bad a job. He IS running a horrible campaign; if I notice that, you know it's true, b/c I don't pay that much attention. I think that stint in the Nixon White House must have fucked him up.
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Postby jerseyhoya » Tue May 18, 2010 09:27:03

Fox reports Rep. Mark Souder will retire amidst revelations of an affair with a staffer.


R+14 district so should be an easy hold. What is it with Indiana Republicans this cycle? Steve Buyer retiring with ethics problems relating to his charity, now this. And I think we are down to 4 House members there, so 2 of them bowing out in the same cycle in disgrace is a high percentage.

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Postby traderdave » Tue May 18, 2010 10:07:40

pacino wrote:
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pacino wrote:watching Bill Maher right now and this SE Cupp (who has seemingly popped up out of nowhere) is full of it but damn she is really hot. Maybe it's the glasses shtick.

And my mancrush on Cory Booker is approaching hoya/christie levels. lets get him president


Saw this as well and agree on both Sarah and Cory. I have to say that I was really kinda surprised how much Booker and Maher went at it on the show. I think Maher is funny, at times very funny, and he is obviously is well-prepared to debate the topics he brings up. One thing that I really do not like about him though is how venomous his discussions are regarding religion. I just do not get why he gives two $#@! about whether or not I believe in God. I certainly could not care less that he does not believe (although, as a Christian, I should - LOL!). Anyway, it was an entertaining show last night if anybody is thinking about catching a replay.

he's not venomous, he kind of just lays it out there. the dude is blunt and doesn't couch his statements. deep down, most people are using religion for some means to an end (bully for them but don't push it on me as so many have done for so long...i was inadvertently flung into a random prayer just before a freaking banquet this past friday and he explicitly mentioned jesus and only jesus, then i got looks for not praying along with him), and he just says it like he thinks it. obviously that lady is full of it if she's an atheist and yet thinks that we should cowtow to some idea of a christian country.

and you do see that last thing you wrote, about how you *should* try and convert us, as a christian? i mean, isn't that one of the major points of the religion, to spread it? well, i'm annoyed by that and it's probably a big reason why most atheists have more of a problem with christianity (and islam) than judaism or another minority religion in the US. hell, don't most more conservative versions of religions basically think we're a fallen sort if we dont find their god the right one?

oh, and i do agree with him that i kind of hope that more politicians are actually atheist. but, i do kind of think it sucks that they can't say that because they are less likely to be elected than any other 'group'. and really, i tend to think more people are atheist than is usually thought, and think more people would say it if famous people/politicians would just say what they thought.


I don't know; I think he has more than just "laid it out there" in the past. I have heard him call people stupid and idiotic for believing in God before and, IMHO, that is just as bad as people shoving God down your throat. I do believe in God and I am in church every Sunday (give or take a Sunday here and there). I am even president of my parish council. But I would probably be considered a bad Catholic because I do not believe everything in the Bible and I do not believe in shoving religion down people's throats. I also do not agree with the position of the Catholic Church on many societal issues.

I agree with you; I wish we were a society that was not so PC all the time. I have no problem at all with people like Maher or you being atheist and saying so. My problem with people like Maher (although we obviously disagree on the extreme he goes to) is that they seem to find it "wrong" to be religious and that is something I just do not agree with any more than I find it "wrong" to be an atheist.

Switching gears, when will politicians learn that they cannot lie and get away with it? And they always seem to lie about the most easily verified things. "You know, I remember when I served as the flight doctor on Apollo 13..."

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Postby drsmooth » Tue May 18, 2010 11:00:09

traderdave wrote:Switching gears, when will politicians learn that they cannot lie and get away with it? And they always seem to lie about the most easily verified things. "You know, I remember when I served as the flight doctor on Apollo 13..."


Here's a take from eastern CT:

Ted Mann, in the New London Day wrote:It's a bad story for the Blumenthal campaign, precisely because it adds a thick streak of tarnish to what had seemed pure sterling in his record, even for those who opposed his politics. Blumenthal, by the grunt and grumble of Hartford, is generally seen as almost annoyingly honest, the irksome Gallant to a state of electoral Goofuses. His cause for ridicule is his propensity to hurl himself in front of cameras, not a propensity to lie once he gets himself there.


It looks like Blumenthal hasn't so much wrapped himself in the flag over the years as rubbed up against it. Not his finest hour, but seems unlikely he's fucking teenage pages (or yearning to) or anything.

He's not the only pol who's tried to make more of his military service than was there, and he's still a better choice for CT than the blowhard Simmons or the wrassling lady (no offense to 3count)
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Postby CalvinBall » Tue May 18, 2010 12:01:08

I voted for Sestak. GI JOE.

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Postby jerseyhoya » Tue May 18, 2010 12:14:46

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_DJwjkU8cI[/youtube]

Souder, interviewed about abstinence, by his mistress.

:lol:

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Postby kopphanatic » Tue May 18, 2010 12:38:56

Voted for Sestak
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Postby traderdave » Tue May 18, 2010 12:44:23

jerseyhoya wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_DJwjkU8cI[/youtube]

Souder, interviewed about abstinence, by his mistress.

:lol:


From the looks of him I can understand why he cheated; it was probably only the second time in his life a woman offered him sex.

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Postby Squire » Tue May 18, 2010 12:48:12

If you were a married guy, how would you rank these humiliations:

1. Wife has a sex tape with previous guy about to be released (Hank Baskett-Kendra Wilkinson)

2. Teacher-wife does it with school middle school age student and goes to jail for a year (Amy Beck)

3. Mid-40s wife has affair with 60 year old ugly out of shape no-name U.S. Congressman.

Krikeys, I feel bad for these guys.

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Postby jerseyhoya » Tue May 18, 2010 12:49:10

DanaBashCNN
Lincoln coming 2 vote but - oops - polling place says she already voted. Her camp says its a mix up. Requested absentee. Didn't fill it out
19 minutes ago


TV, your senator is trying to vote twice

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Postby TenuredVulture » Tue May 18, 2010 12:56:57

jerseyhoya wrote:
DanaBashCNN
Lincoln coming 2 vote but - oops - polling place says she already voted. Her camp says its a mix up. Requested absentee. Didn't fill it out
19 minutes ago


TV, your senator is trying to vote twice


Oopsie.
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Postby Barry Jive » Tue May 18, 2010 14:32:26

leaving in 15 minutes to vote Sestak
no offense but you are everything that's wrong with America

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Postby jerseyhoya » Tue May 18, 2010 14:43:19

Blumenthal just held a defiant press conference where he said he misspoke a few times, and regretted misplacing words, but refused to apologize for it. Lots of Vets, presumably union members, standing behind in being all "Hoorah" and "here here" and grumbling at the reporters asking Blumenthal questions.

Really weird press conference. Intro from some old vet who started crying when talking about Blumenthal being nice to vets.

Why not just apologize? Even give the old "sorry if I offended anyone but it wasn't intentional" thing.

Another weird part was when he was asked why he didn't correct press accounts that referred to him as serving in Vietnam, he said that he may not have even seen them (why not say "I didn't see them?") and if he did, it's not his job to get those facts right, it's the press's job. Mind you, Blumenthal saying that he served in Vietnam would seem to give reporters a pretty good reason for getting that wrong, but Dick didn't want to be on the hook for "their" mistakes. Basically I can't think of too many dumber things to say to the press when you have a long public record and an apparent penchant for misstating basic facts like whether or not you served in Vietnam that they didn't do their job when their mistake was reporting what you said as factual.

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Postby Gomes » Tue May 18, 2010 15:08:12

Squire wrote:If you were a married guy, how would you rank these humiliations:

1. Wife has a sex tape with previous guy about to be released (Hank Baskett-Kendra Wilkinson)

2. Teacher-wife does it with school middle school age student and goes to jail for a year (Amy Beck)

3. Mid-40s wife has affair with 60 year old ugly out of shape no-name U.S. Congressman.

Krikeys, I feel bad for these guys.

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2, 3, 1

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Postby TenuredVulture » Tue May 18, 2010 17:38:32

It's no Alabama Ag Commisioner ad, but still

http://www.arktimes.com/assets/documents/barthad.mp3
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Postby pacino » Tue May 18, 2010 17:51:31

Well, I got in there and voted Hoeffel/Sestak/Trivedi/Saidel in 20 seconds. Also voted for someone I knew for Democratic Committee. Sorry, Arlen. :(
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Postby jerseyhoya » Tue May 18, 2010 17:52:51

Chris Matthews talking to Nutter, Brady and Rooney is great TV.

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