Is There A BETTER Day to Start the New Politics Thread?

Postby Rococo4 » Wed May 12, 2010 01:15:48

jerseyhoya wrote:Specter even in the tracking poll and Quinnipiac! poll drops tomorrow morning

I'd make Sestak slightly more than 2 to 1 favorite right now. Two major events looming between now and next Tuesday are the Quinnipiac poll, which could flip conventional wisdom again, and Obama making a last ditch appearance for Specter, which I imagine would be worth enough to swing a close race.


specter close to DOA after that brutally effective sestak ad today. but if there was anyone who would do anything to hold onto their seat, its arlen, so he's still got a chance. smart money would be on sestak.

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Postby TenuredVulture » Wed May 12, 2010 10:40:23

Some interesting parallels between primaries in Arkansas and PA--both have moderate/conservative Dems facing primary challenges from the left, and both states have Democratic electorates that are somewhat conservative (though this is less the case in PA than in AR, I think the other big difference, a highly competitive Republican Senate primary in AR will pull a lot of conservatives Dems into voting in the Republican primary.)

Also, regardless of who wins the Democratic primary, they will start out as significant underdogs for the general, though again Arkansas more than PA.
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Postby TenuredVulture » Wed May 12, 2010 10:45:59

Not sure I buy this list of most corrupt states, as NJ isn't even in the top 10. Nor is Louisiana.
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Postby jerseyhoya » Wed May 12, 2010 10:48:13

West Virginia Rep. Alan Mollohan's (D) resounding primary defeat Tuesday night coupled with Utah Sen. Bob Bennett's (R) convincing loss last Saturday should send a clear signal to any incumbent up for re-election this year: Brace yourself.

While both Mollohan (ethics) and Bennett (TARP) carried unique baggage that left them vulnerable to a challenge from within their party, their defeats are from the only evidence that an anti-incumbent fervor is gripping the nation.

Last Tuesday, Indiana Republican Rep. Dan Burton won his party's nod with less than 30 percent of the vote while unknown and unfunded challengers to North Carolina Democratic Reps. Larry Kissell and Heath Shuler took more than a third of the vote.

(Deputy Fix Aaron Blake notes that similarly unknown challengers to West Virginia Democratic Rep. Nick Rahall and Nebraska Republican Rep. Lee Terry also wound up with more than a third of the vote in primaries on Tuesday night.)

But wait, there's more. A recent Washington Post/ABC poll showed that less than one in three people said they plan to vote to re-elect their member of Congress -- numbers that haven't been seen in Post/ABC data since the Republican wave election of 1994.

Looking at the breadth of that evidence, it's hard not to say that the political environment is toxic for incumbents. The question now seems to be how bad it is.


From The Fix

Also the Q poll has Specter up 44-42. Have to say Sestak's the favorite, with Specter that far from 50 less than a week from election day.

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Postby TenuredVulture » Wed May 12, 2010 11:12:03

I really wish the TARP nonsense would stop. This program, which may well have averted utter financial catastrophe, right now looks like it will cost American taxpayers $89 billion (Fox news shows it $109 billion). That's it. It is to the eternal credit of McCain, Obama, and Bush that they did the right thing on this (though McCain's "stopping the campaign" was a bit of grandstanding that probably backfired) and probably averted economic meltdown.

It wasn't a perfect bill, it was an emergency response. And maybe you don't like the fact that much of that 109 billion of cost went to GM, not a financial institution. But then don't keep screaming about Wall Street bailouts.
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Postby jerseyhoya » Wed May 12, 2010 11:49:44

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqh8e4W5PtM&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

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Postby pacino » Fri May 14, 2010 02:07:19

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Postby swishnicholson » Fri May 14, 2010 02:25:49

pacino wrote:<embed src='http://media.mtvnservices.com/mgid:cms:item:comedycentral.com:309153' width='360' height='301' type='application/x-shockwave-flash' wmode='window' allowFullscreen='true' flashvars='autoPlay=false' allowscriptaccess='always' allownetworking='all' bgcolor='#000000'></embed>


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Postby jerseyhoya » Fri May 14, 2010 12:24:59

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Postby jerseyhoya » Fri May 14, 2010 12:26:23

Dunno why I couldn't write in the above message. Crazy embedding...

Anyhow Christie's "rant" is getting a lot of national attention. I'm so far past being able to try and be objective with anything he does.

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Postby Gomes » Fri May 14, 2010 12:59:37

Enjoyable "rant" by Christie - I can see why that'd be getting a lot of national attention (most of which I assume is positive).

As an irrelevant aside, by the end though I wanted to just punch the sycophantic guy with the glasses next to him in the face for laughing like an idiot the whole time.

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Postby Bucky » Fri May 14, 2010 13:20:45

how come there was nothing on the bottom below jersey's post?

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Postby Stay_Disappointed » Fri May 14, 2010 16:59:39

Bucky wrote:how come there was nothing on the bottom below jersey's post?


fatso took up too much space
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Postby The Nightman Cometh » Fri May 14, 2010 19:16:15

Christie is a douche.
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Postby The Nightman Cometh » Fri May 14, 2010 21:00:39

So Sestak has gotten pretty close to Toomey now too huh
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Postby pacino » Sat May 15, 2010 14:23:02

watching Bill Maher right now and this SE Cupp (who has seemingly popped up out of nowhere) is full of it but damn she is really hot. Maybe it's the glasses shtick.

And my mancrush on Cory Booker is approaching hoya/christie levels. lets get him president
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Postby dajafi » Sat May 15, 2010 14:53:35

Gomes wrote:Enjoyable "rant" by Christie - I can see why that'd be getting a lot of national attention (most of which I assume is positive).

As an irrelevant aside, by the end though I wanted to just punch the sycophantic guy with the glasses next to him in the face for laughing like an idiot the whole time.


Didn't get to watch that until now. Gotta agree it was pretty cool--though ultimately the question is whether it's effective.

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Postby TenuredVulture » Sat May 15, 2010 17:44:24

A black guy is POTUS. That's still pretty incredible to me. I love America.
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Postby jerseyhoya » Sun May 16, 2010 20:53:27

“Look here, I had a clear shot at re-election. If I had stayed with the obstructionist Republican caucus, I would have been re-elected easily, especially in an out-year when the party out of power is favored.” - Specter on CNN today

Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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