Is There A BETTER Day to Start the New Politics Thread?

Postby jerseyhoya » Sun May 16, 2010 21:26:07

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU7fhIO7DG0[/youtube]

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Postby TenuredVulture » Sun May 16, 2010 21:35:24

That's awesome. I'm gonna move to Alabama and vote for that guy, and then shoot some stuff.
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Postby momadance » Sun May 16, 2010 22:35:46

The Nightman Cometh wrote:Christie is a douche.


Yes. How dare he attempt to fix the disaster that is the New Jersey debt. He's the first governor in this state in decades that is actually doing what he campaigned on. Yeah, it really sucks that he's cutting a ton of bureaucracy, standing up to money draining unions, and cutting wasteful spending.

The NJEA doesn't have a leg to stand on. They specialize in wasting money. Why does a school district with barely a thousand students need a superintendent making almost $200,000? How does a school board elect a President who's a 21 year old felon? Teachers are underpaid, administrators are vastly overpaid. NJEA needs to fix their own system of fraud and stop blaming the state. The same goes for the rest of the unions in the state crying about cuts. They've wasted my property and income tax dollars for way to long.

Maybe if you paid propery taxes in NJ you'd understand. It's not the state's job to take care of you.

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Postby momadance » Sun May 16, 2010 22:43:24

jerseyhoya wrote:“Look here, I had a clear shot at re-election. If I had stayed with the obstructionist Republican caucus, I would have been re-elected easily, especially in an out-year when the party out of power is favored.” - Specter on CNN today

Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


lol. It must be killing him knowning how bad he f'd that one up.

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Postby Werthless » Sun May 16, 2010 22:46:34

He would have had a very difficult primary battle, probably more difficult than his Democratic primary battle. I think that's what jersey is laughing at. Spector is trying to make it seem like his decision was not just a political maneuvering to stay in power.

PS. But he's not endeared himself to either bases.

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Postby dajafi » Sun May 16, 2010 23:31:25

Yeah, there's no way Specter was getting renominated as a Republican.

btw, I've decided there's a whole rich vein of as yet untapped comedy for someone who can do a good Specter imitation--that jerky drawl of his--putting him in different fun situations: trying to buy a dimebag of weed, working as a funeral director or a carny, attempting to seduce a drunk girl.

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Postby TenuredVulture » Sun May 16, 2010 23:36:08

momadance wrote:
The Nightman Cometh wrote:Christie is a douche.


Yes. How dare he attempt to fix the disaster that is the New Jersey debt. He's the first governor in this state in decades that is actually doing what he campaigned on. Yeah, it really sucks that he's cutting a ton of bureaucracy, standing up to money draining unions, and cutting wasteful spending.

The NJEA doesn't have a leg to stand on. They specialize in wasting money. Why does a school district with barely a thousand students need a superintendent making almost $200,000? How does a school board elect a President who's a 21 year old felon? Teachers are underpaid, administrators are vastly overpaid. NJEA needs to fix their own system of fraud and stop blaming the state. The same goes for the rest of the unions in the state crying about cuts. They've wasted my property and income tax dollars for way to long.

Maybe if you paid propery taxes in NJ you'd understand. It's not the state's job to take care of you.

NJEA represents neither school boards nor school administrators.
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Postby momadance » Mon May 17, 2010 10:11:36

TenuredVulture wrote:NJEA represents neither school boards nor school administrators.


I understand that. But they have enough influence on the boards and administrators. The NJEA is crying about funding cuts. Instead of complaining about the cuts maybe they should be fighting the local school boards who waste money like it grows on trees. Teachers deserved to be paid. My mom is a retired teacher from AC. She knows first hand about how much money is just thrown away. The school boards are a mess but the NJEA is waging a fight with the wrong group of people.

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Postby CFP » Mon May 17, 2010 12:54:47

dajafi wrote:Yeah, there's no way Specter was getting renominated as a Republican.

btw, I've decided there's a whole rich vein of as yet untapped comedy for someone who can do a good Specter imitation--that jerky drawl of his--putting him in different fun situations: trying to buy a dimebag of weed, working as a funeral director or a carny, attempting to seduce a drunk girl.


My change in party will enable me to have sex with you.

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Postby traderdave » Mon May 17, 2010 13:32:59

pacino wrote:watching Bill Maher right now and this SE Cupp (who has seemingly popped up out of nowhere) is full of it but damn she is really hot. Maybe it's the glasses shtick.

And my mancrush on Cory Booker is approaching hoya/christie levels. lets get him president


Saw this as well and agree on both Sarah and Cory. I have to say that I was really kinda surprised how much Booker and Maher went at it on the show. I think Maher is funny, at times very funny, and he is obviously is well-prepared to debate the topics he brings up. One thing that I really do not like about him though is how venomous his discussions are regarding religion. I just do not get why he gives two shits about whether or not I believe in God. I certainly could not care less that he does not believe (although, as a Christian, I should - LOL!). Anyway, it was an entertaining show last night if anybody is thinking about catching a replay.

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Postby Bakestar » Mon May 17, 2010 14:00:57

So Pat Buchanan doesn't like the fact that if Kagan is confirmed, SCOTUS will be 33% Jewish versus 2% of the population, but doesn't complain that the remaining 67% of the Court will be Roman Catholic, versus 22% of the population.

Yay bigotry!
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Postby kopphanatic » Mon May 17, 2010 16:44:50

Bob Shieffer says that his sources in the White House are bracing for a Specter loss tomorrow

Interesting considering that there hasn't really been active campaigning made by Obama or Biden as the primary approaches.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/05/bob_schieffer_white_house_priv.html?wprss=plum-line
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Postby TenuredVulture » Mon May 17, 2010 17:11:11

I got an Obama robo call yesterday telling me to vote for Blanche Lincoln. I hung before it finished, but it felt weird hanging up on the robot President. I mean, what if I was mistaken, and I was a random Democrat the President was phoning for a photo op?
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Postby traderdave » Mon May 17, 2010 18:01:46

TenuredVulture wrote:I got an Obama robo call yesterday telling me to vote for Blanche Lincoln. I hung before it finished, but it felt weird hanging up on the robot President. I mean, what if I was mistaken, and I was a random Democrat the President was phoning for a photo op?


Come on, TV; haven't you ever seen The American President? At least you didn't make a "nice ass" remark.

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Postby pacino » Mon May 17, 2010 18:05:24

traderdave wrote:
pacino wrote:watching Bill Maher right now and this SE Cupp (who has seemingly popped up out of nowhere) is full of it but damn she is really hot. Maybe it's the glasses shtick.

And my mancrush on Cory Booker is approaching hoya/christie levels. lets get him president


Saw this as well and agree on both Sarah and Cory. I have to say that I was really kinda surprised how much Booker and Maher went at it on the show. I think Maher is funny, at times very funny, and he is obviously is well-prepared to debate the topics he brings up. One thing that I really do not like about him though is how venomous his discussions are regarding religion. I just do not get why he gives two $#@! about whether or not I believe in God. I certainly could not care less that he does not believe (although, as a Christian, I should - LOL!). Anyway, it was an entertaining show last night if anybody is thinking about catching a replay.

he's not venomous, he kind of just lays it out there. the dude is blunt and doesn't couch his statements. deep down, most people are using religion for some means to an end (bully for them but don't push it on me as so many have done for so long...i was inadvertently flung into a random prayer just before a freaking banquet this past friday and he explicitly mentioned jesus and only jesus, then i got looks for not praying along with him), and he just says it like he thinks it. obviously that lady is full of it if she's an atheist and yet thinks that we should cowtow to some idea of a christian country.

and you do see that last thing you wrote, about how you *should* try and convert us, as a christian? i mean, isn't that one of the major points of the religion, to spread it? well, i'm annoyed by that and it's probably a big reason why most atheists have more of a problem with christianity (and islam) than judaism or another minority religion in the US. hell, don't most more conservative versions of religions basically think we're a fallen sort if we dont find their god the right one?

oh, and i do agree with him that i kind of hope that more politicians are actually atheist. but, i do kind of think it sucks that they can't say that because they are less likely to be elected than any other 'group'. and really, i tend to think more people are atheist than is usually thought, and think more people would say it if famous people/politicians would just say what they thought.
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Postby pacino » Mon May 17, 2010 18:32:47

a new gingrich update (him explaining why he support Bob Bennett while the Tea Party didn't):

Gingrich: I did and I think Bennett's a very nice man, but my comment wasn't anti-Bennett. I think Bennett would agree with me. He went back home. I went to Utah for him and what he found was first of all his vote on TARP really signaled people that -- he gave them an explanation for their anger. Second, Bennett is a very reasonable person. I think they wanted someone to come in and fight.

LOL, who would want a reasonable person in office, amirite? i'm not even a fan of bennett, but his ousting was pretty ridiculous. you can't even argue like jh would with crist. this was just a really weird primary
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Postby jerseyhoya » Mon May 17, 2010 18:43:50

It wasn't a primary. It was a nominating convention of about 3,500 delegates. He needed to finish in the top two to make the ballot. Bennett came in third out of four candidates. So he finished a couple hundred votes from GOP activists short of making the ballot.

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Postby pacino » Mon May 17, 2010 18:47:54

you know what i meant.

why do they limit their ballot like that? it doesnt much make sense to limit the candidates
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Postby jerseyhoya » Mon May 17, 2010 21:22:43

Candidate’s Words Differ From His History

Oh my word

At a ceremony honoring veterans and senior citizens who sent presents to soldiers overseas, Attorney General Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut rose and spoke of an earlier time in his life.

“We have learned something important since the days that I served in Vietnam,” Mr. Blumenthal said to the group gathered in Norwalk in March 2008. “And you exemplify it. Whatever we think about the war, whatever we call it — Afghanistan or Iraq — we owe our military men and women unconditional support.”

There was one problem: Mr. Blumenthal, a Democrat now running for the United States Senate, never served in Vietnam. He obtained at least five military deferments from 1965 to 1970 and took repeated steps that enabled him to avoid going to war, according to records.

The deferments allowed Mr. Blumenthal to complete his studies at Harvard; pursue a graduate fellowship in England; serve as a special assistant to The Washington Post’s publisher, Katharine Graham; and ultimately take a job in the Nixon White House.

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Postby VoxOrion » Mon May 17, 2010 21:24:07

The story only has to hold up so long...
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