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by **Phight On!** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 01:44:51

Is there a thread for insane people that you know and you have the pictures to prove it?

by **Phan In Phlorida** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 01:47:49

Phight On! wrote:Is there a thread for insane people that you know and you have the pictures to prove it?

The Mets/Fugies threads?

(rimshot)

by **swishnicholson** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 02:35:36

Don't turn away from love.

by **TenuredVulture** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 10:07:23

Phight On! wrote:Well, if... ... let's say you run out of screens for your favorite bowl but still want to smoke your tobacco with it and hypothetically speaking have the knowledge that people who smoke crack use it in their stems as screens but you never have actually attempted to make such a screen, perhaps you make it a little too small and you... well... ah $#@! it I'm gonna let PIP go crazy with this HIT IT, PULL IT, SUCK IT JUST A LITTLE TOO HARD when it's INCREDIBLY HOT and IT GETS STUCK IN YOUR THROAT until you can get a drink and SWALLOW IT because you can't cough it up.

I imagine it could conceivably give you a terrible sore throat and still taste it a little bit every once in a while.

I would watch for blood.

by **Barry Jive** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 10:09:15

Can't wait for my next break so I can take a nap in my car

by **swishnicholson** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 10:48:23

Phight On! wrote:
lethal wrote:That sounds like ADD.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADHD_predo ... nattentive

It's actually called jonesing

Once I'm hooked up, I'm a multitasking mutha $#@!.

But seriously though I definitely would have been diagnosed sooner if that was the case. I was actually in "gifted and talented" all through elementary school, I took high school courses while in middle school and some college classes while in high school.

I'm not going to try to be an amateur psychologist for Phight On because I have no idea what his situation is. I just wanted to point out, from personal experience, that academic success doesn't rule out ADHD PI, it just makes it much more unlikely that it will be diagnosed. If you're smart enough, you can pull things out of your ass at the last minute and still get grades. In fact, the ADHD PI type person also tends to be able to hyper-focus on a task that they find interesting or necessary, and is usually very imaginative, and these traits can lead to success in school. Unlike the standard ADHD sufferers they don't really have hyperactivity problems and don't cause behavior problems. So if a kid is going through school and getting decent grades and not causing problems it's unlikely they're going to get pulled out and identified as someone with a disorder. Teachers might note that they don't pay attention or don't work up to their potential (since the child will often score well on IQ and standardized tests) or sometimes don't turn in assignments on time, but no one, including the student, will see the extent of the problem, which will be seen as a simply requiring that the student try harder and try to focus better.

Often it's not until college or adulthood when the challenges become more complex and self-organization becomes more necessary that things start to reach crisis level.

Of course, diagnosing a kid properly with ADHD PI doesn't in any way guarantee effective treatment and the disorder is pretty nebulous anyway. But it's a better start than not recognizing it.

by **swishnicholson** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:05:58

I went to see a local production of Take Me Out last night since I had a couple free tickets , and I brought my 14 year old twins. The website had a warning about "strong language and mature themes" and I remembered it was about a gay baseball player, but my kids are pretty "mature" so i wasn't really bothered by that.

I'd somehow forgotten that most of the action takes place in the locker room and, while they toned down the extended shower scenes of the original, the warning should have said, "warning there will be multiple guys' bare butts looking you in the face from not ten feet away since this is a tiny theater. " My kids seemed to take it fine though, probably better than my mother, from whom I got the tickets, would have.

by **Slowhand** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:18:27

swishnicholson wrote:Often it's not until college or adulthood when the challenges became more complex and self-organization becomes more necessary that things start to reach crisis level.

I think I might have this.

by **phatj** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:31:39

Slowhand wrote:
swishnicholson wrote:Often it's not until college or adulthood when the challenges became more complex and self-organization becomes more necessary that things start to reach crisis level.

I think I might have this.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I cruised through high school without ever having to work hard, but flunked out of college. I've always attributed that to becoming more enamored with alcohol and drugs than with going to class and doing homework but truth be told I struggled with classwork when it wasn't easy enough for me to just grasp immediately.

Even today I'm pretty bad a long-range projects but if something comes up that needs immediate attention I'm great at knocking it out.

by **Bucky** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:43:29

by **smitty** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 16:22:22

Slowhand wrote:
swishnicholson wrote:Often it's not until college or adulthood when the challenges became more complex and self-organization becomes more necessary that things start to reach crisis level.

I think I might have this.

I'm not sure I know many people who don't.

by **Housh's Crack Dealer** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 18:55:36

phight, pm me for a cheaper product

by **The Nightman Cometh** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 19:49:17

phatj wrote:
Slowhand wrote:
swishnicholson wrote:Often it's not until college or adulthood when the challenges became more complex and self-organization becomes more necessary that things start to reach crisis level.

I think I might have this.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I cruised through high school without ever having to work hard, but flunked out of college. I've always attributed that to becoming more enamored with alcohol and drugs than with going to class and doing homework but truth be told I struggled with classwork when it wasn't easy enough for me to just grasp immediately.

Even today I'm pretty bad a long-range projects but if something comes up that needs immediate attention I'm great at knocking it out.

Sometimes I feel like we are the same person.

Except I don't wear digital watches.

by **phatj** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 20:41:00

The Nightman Cometh wrote:
phatj wrote:
Slowhand wrote:
swishnicholson wrote:Often it's not until college or adulthood when the challenges became more complex and self-organization becomes more necessary that things start to reach crisis level.

I think I might have this.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I cruised through high school without ever having to work hard, but flunked out of college. I've always attributed that to becoming more enamored with alcohol and drugs than with going to class and doing homework but truth be told I struggled with classwork when it wasn't easy enough for me to just grasp immediately.

Even today I'm pretty bad a long-range projects but if something comes up that needs immediate attention I'm great at knocking it out.

Sometimes I feel like we are the same person.

Except I don't wear digital watches.

How did you know I wear digital watches? Actually I haven't worn a watch at all for several months since the band broke on my last one.

by **The Nightman Cometh** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 20:44:19

our minds are connected. or something.

by **Barry Jive** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 22:46:07

smitty wrote:
Slowhand wrote:
swishnicholson wrote:Often it's not until college or adulthood when the challenges became more complex and self-organization becomes more necessary that things start to reach crisis level.

I think I might have this.

I'm not sure I know many people who don't.

i'm pretty sure i'm quite capable of executing anything; it's just my sheer laziness that keeps me from doing so. i almost tried to give myself this ADHD but then i thought better of it. it's mainly my own fault i'm not in a better position in life.

by **swishnicholson** » Mon Apr 19, 2010 00:38:09

Barry Jive wrote:
smitty wrote:
Slowhand wrote:
swishnicholson wrote:Often it's not until college or adulthood when the challenges became more complex and self-organization becomes more necessary that things start to reach crisis level.

I think I might have this.

I'm not sure I know many people who don't.

i'm pretty sure i'm quite capable of executing anything; it's just my sheer laziness that keeps me from doing so. i almost tried to give myself this ADHD but then i thought better of it. it's mainly my own fault i'm not in a better position in life.

I don't want to talk above my paygrade-I have no idea who has ADHD-PI (which I wish they'd go back to calling ADD, it's a lot easier) or even how helpful a diagnosis is. It's certainly not an excuse for not doing things that have to be done. But Smitty's comment may be true in a different way than he intended in that people with this disorder often can thrive in a structured environment, of which the military would certainly be a prime example. That's really the best way to look at the issue. Maybe you're lazy, or maybe you're not putting yourself in a situation where your best qualities can really emerge. If a lot of this sounds familiar, whether a legit diagnosis exists or not, you may need to break down tasks into smaller units, avoid distractions, write out schedules, have variety in your day, interact with small groups, etc. If you try to sit in a chair for eight hours in a busy office, or start each day with a blank slate or try to get to work at home with the tv on, your browser open and an ipod in your ears, you're not necessarily going to fail, but you've given yourself a much steeper hill to climb.

Working as a dispatcher probably works very well for you since each call is novel, there are guidelines for handling each situation and once a problem is handled you can move on to the next one without worrying about the big picture. That doesn't mean that's all you can do, just that in looking for what career path you might want to follow you should consider things you've been successful at and look for something that takes advantage of these, rather than beating yourself up over things that are difficult for you. Every job is going to have aspects that you do just well enough and others that you excel at. The people that are happiest in their work are the ones who get the proportions to lean toward the excellent side.

Sorry to preach-I think I'm mostly talking to myself anyway.

by **SK790** » Mon Apr 19, 2010 02:44:25

i swear i must be the only loser drinking on a sunday night.

by **The Dude** » Mon Apr 19, 2010 05:08:23

The Dude wrote:effing insomnia

by **Barry Jive** » Mon Apr 19, 2010 05:20:01

swishnicholson wrote:
Barry Jive wrote:
smitty wrote:
Slowhand wrote:
swishnicholson wrote:Often it's not until college or adulthood when the challenges became more complex and self-organization becomes more necessary that things start to reach crisis level.

I think I might have this.

I'm not sure I know many people who don't.

i'm pretty sure i'm quite capable of executing anything; it's just my sheer laziness that keeps me from doing so. i almost tried to give myself this ADHD but then i thought better of it. it's mainly my own fault i'm not in a better position in life.

I don't want to talk above my paygrade-I have no idea who has ADHD-PI (which I wish they'd go back to calling ADD, it's a lot easier) or even how helpful a diagnosis is. It's certainly not an excuse for not doing things that have to be done. But Smitty's comment may be true in a different way than he intended in that people with this disorder often can thrive in a structured environment, of which the military would certainly be a prime example. That's really the best way to look at the issue. Maybe you're lazy, or maybe you're not putting yourself in a situation where your best qualities can really emerge. If a lot of this sounds familiar, whether a legit diagnosis exists or not, you may need to break down tasks into smaller units, avoid distractions, write out schedules, have variety in your day, interact with small groups, etc. If you try to sit in a chair for eight hours in a busy office, or start each day with a blank slate or try to get to work at home with the tv on, your browser open and an ipod in your ears, you're not necessarily going to fail, but you've given yourself a much steeper hill to climb.

Working as a dispatcher probably works very well for you since each call is novel, there are guidelines for handling each situation and once a problem is handled you can move on to the next one without worrying about the big picture. That doesn't mean that's all you can do, just that in looking for what career path you might want to follow you should consider things you've been successful at and look for something that takes advantage of these, rather than beating yourself up over things that are difficult for you. Every job is going to have aspects that you do just well enough and others that you excel at. The people that are happiest in their work are the ones who get the proportions to lean toward the excellent side.

Sorry to preach-I think I'm mostly talking to myself anyway.

I didn't intend to make ADHD sound like an excuse. I just think it would be in my case. I never showed any signs of it when I was a kid--even though I excelled in school, I was lucky to pretty much always be in tune with class. The first sign of straying from that was in my senior year of high school when I realized that none of the grade I was working for had any impact on my future. And then when I moved away to college it was like I'd been freed from a leash and for the first time in my life I could slack off on a daily basis without any immediate repercussions.

You've probably got something with the "putting yourself in a position to succeed" idea. When I was in college getting terrible grades because I couldn't be bothered to go to class and listen to who I thought were a bunch of morons talk about stuff I didn't care about just because that's what I was supposed to do, I was also working my ass off at the school newspaper for no incentive whatsoever other than my own self-satisfaction. And because a newspaper gives you instant gratification: Put in a lot of hard work today, see the fruits of your labor published a couple days later.

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