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Postby jerseyhoya » Sun Dec 07, 2008 00:16:26

Oh my fucking god we beat Bill Jefferson.

Great day for America. And that's only partly the whiskey talking.

Seriously, wow. Good for the people of New Orleans. I'm stunned.

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Postby TenuredVulture » Sun Dec 07, 2008 00:18:38

jerseyhoya wrote:Oh my $#@! god we beat Bill Jefferson.

Great day for America. And that's only partly the whiskey talking.

Seriously, wow. Good for the people of New Orleans. I'm stunned.


Beating Jefferson is good. And I don't really care that Carmouche lost, and first, it's supposed to be a Republican seat, and Carmouche was a DINO anyway.
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Postby jerseyhoya » Sun Dec 07, 2008 00:41:14

Note stolen from Kos, and it more clearly illustrates how absurd this pickup tonight was than anything else I could say: LA-02 is a D+28 district according to the Cook Partisan Voting Index. That means it's 28 points more Democratic than the nation as a whole (going off the 2004 presidential results - PVIs haven't been updated for 2008 yet). To give you a sense of how Dem this district is, there is not a single Republican district that is comparably red - UT-03 tops the list at R+26.

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Postby phdave » Sun Dec 07, 2008 01:18:50

jerseyhoya wrote:Note stolen from Kos, and it more clearly illustrates how absurd this pickup tonight was than anything else I could say: LA-02 is a D+28 district according to the Cook Partisan Voting Index. That means it's 28 points more Democratic than the nation as a whole (going off the 2004 presidential results - PVIs haven't been updated for 2008 yet). To give you a sense of how Dem this district is, there is not a single Republican district that is comparably red - UT-03 tops the list at R+26.


2004 was prior to Katrina, right?
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Postby jerseyhoya » Sun Dec 07, 2008 01:41:37

Yeah, I mean, now it's probably only a D+25 district. You're right. It's not an extraordinary win at all.

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Postby TenuredVulture » Sun Dec 07, 2008 12:48:02

Running Asian candidates is the secret for the Republican comeback.

Or maybe it's just Asians from Louisiana. More research is needed. I propose Jerseyhoya make like Mark Penn and declare ownership of this new and important Microtrend!

You'll have to put on weight though.
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Postby TenuredVulture » Sun Dec 07, 2008 12:49:51

jerseyhoya wrote:Yeah, I mean, now it's probably only a D+25 district. You're right. It's not an extraordinary win at all.


I'm guessing that there are some fundamental changes going on in Louisiana's political culture, especially in the South. This can only be a good thing. And while Republicans will be the short term beneficiaries of this, long term, results may actually start to matter.
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Postby Stay_Disappointed » Sun Dec 07, 2008 17:03:18

David Gregory has been named moderator of NBC News’ “Meet the Press,” effective immediately.


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Postby dajafi » Sun Dec 07, 2008 17:09:43

jerseyhoya wrote:Oh my $#@! god we beat Bill Jefferson.

Great day for America. And that's only partly the whiskey talking.

Seriously, wow. Good for the people of New Orleans. I'm stunned.


+1. Though some perverse part of me is annoyed that Pelosi et al are let off the hook for not kicking the scumbag to the curb themselves.

Still, this is great. Not just the Congress but the Democratic caucus are improved by his leaving, regardless of who replaces him.

And I assume this is sort of like when the Rs lost DeLay's district, and Foley's--the party's price paid for shedding a slimeball is losing one seat for probably one cycle when one seat doesn't much matter anyway. Anyone who isn't a total partisan hack should be happy with that trade, every time.

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Postby dajafi » Sun Dec 07, 2008 18:00:24

Nate Silver on the endless Minnesota Senate race:

If you put a gun to my head and asked me to predict the winner, I would tell you to shoot me.

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Postby TenuredVulture » Sun Dec 07, 2008 19:52:46

dajafi wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:Oh my $#@! god we beat Bill Jefferson.

Great day for America. And that's only partly the whiskey talking.

Seriously, wow. Good for the people of New Orleans. I'm stunned.


+1. Though some perverse part of me is annoyed that Pelosi et al are let off the hook for not kicking the scumbag to the curb themselves.

Still, this is great. Not just the Congress but the Democratic caucus are improved by his leaving, regardless of who replaces him.

And I assume this is sort of like when the Rs lost DeLay's district, and Foley's--the party's price paid for shedding a slimeball is losing one seat for probably one cycle when one seat doesn't much matter anyway. Anyone who isn't a total partisan hack should be happy with that trade, every time.


Maybe one day, indicted candidates will get a serious primary challenge.
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Postby jerseyhoya » Sun Dec 07, 2008 23:28:06

It was either a really bad good day or a really good bad day. It's hard to have a bad day when you clinch the NFC East, but we looked like shit, and I really hate Mary Jo Kilroy.

I'll say it was a bad good day.

I saw she won around 8. If I had seen that at like 6:45 before Romo imploded I probably would have flipped out.

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Postby Werthless » Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:15:20

Illinois governor arrested at his home for soliciting bribes for filling Obama's soon-to-be vacant Senate seat. It's the result of a 3 year probe on pay-to-play in Chicago politics.
Fitzgerald's office said the 76-page FBI affidavit alleges that Blagojevich was taped conspiring to sell or trade Obama's vacated U.S. Senate seat for financial and other personal benefits for himself and his wife.

According to the affidavit, Blagojevich floated the idea of "a substantial salary for himself at a either a nonprofit foundation or an organization affiliated with labor unions;" a corporate board seat for his wife worth as much as $150,000 a year; promises of campaign funds, including cash up front; and a Cabinet post or ambassadorship for himself.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2008/12 ... l-custody/

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Postby pacino » Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:46:14

Canadian parliament shutdown, Greece in chaos, world economy in crisis


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Postby theycallmeSPIKE » Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:52:52

Werthless wrote:Illinois governor arrested at his home for soliciting bribes for filling Obama's soon-to-be vacant Senate seat. It's the result of a 3 year probe on pay-to-play in Chicago politics.
Fitzgerald's office said the 76-page FBI affidavit alleges that Blagojevich was taped conspiring to sell or trade Obama's vacated U.S. Senate seat for financial and other personal benefits for himself and his wife.

According to the affidavit, Blagojevich floated the idea of "a substantial salary for himself at a either a nonprofit foundation or an organization affiliated with labor unions;" a corporate board seat for his wife worth as much as $150,000 a year; promises of campaign funds, including cash up front; and a Cabinet post or ambassadorship for himself.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2008/12 ... l-custody/

Just saw that...greedy bastards.
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Postby lethal » Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:00:51

jerseyhoya wrote:Oh my $#@! god we beat Bill Jefferson.

Great day for America. And that's only partly the whiskey talking.

Seriously, wow. Good for the people of New Orleans. I'm stunned.


First Vietnamese American elected to Congress. I'm somewhat surprised this didn't happen in either Orange County, CA or San Jose, CA first. Congrats to Mr. Cao.

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Postby jerseyhoya » Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:04:34

Werthless wrote:Illinois governor arrested at his home for soliciting bribes for filling Obama's soon-to-be vacant Senate seat. It's the result of a 3 year probe on pay-to-play in Chicago politics.
Fitzgerald's office said the 76-page FBI affidavit alleges that Blagojevich was taped conspiring to sell or trade Obama's vacated U.S. Senate seat for financial and other personal benefits for himself and his wife.

According to the affidavit, Blagojevich floated the idea of "a substantial salary for himself at a either a nonprofit foundation or an organization affiliated with labor unions;" a corporate board seat for his wife worth as much as $150,000 a year; promises of campaign funds, including cash up front; and a Cabinet post or ambassadorship for himself.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2008/12 ... l-custody/


What a moron. Didn't he know he was under investigation?

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Postby dajafi » Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:19:53

Blago is the corrupt Dem pol from Central Casting.

"I want to make money."

-- Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich (D), intercepted on court-authorized wiretaps over the last month conspiring to trade his state's vacant U.S. Senate seat for personal benefits.
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Postby Squire » Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:22:19

Here's a good quote from smokinggun.com:

Attached to the U.S. District Court complaint is an FBI affidavit, excerpted below, alleging that Blagojevich was caught on wiretaps noting that the Senate seat "is a f*cking valuable thing, you just don't give it away for nothing." He was also recorded saying that unless "I get something real good," he would appoint himself to the vacancy. "I'm going to keep this Senate option for me a real possibility, you know, and therefore I can drive a hard bargain. You hear what I'm saying. And if I don't get what I want and I'm not satisfied with it, then I'll just take the Senate seat myself."


Nice.

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