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by **TenuredVulture** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 14:26:32

The grand irony here is that it was ideologues on both the left and the right who opposed this thing. Has anyone seen a roll call yet?

by **jerseyhoya** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 14:29:04

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2008/roll674.xml

by **pacino** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 14:29:07

jerseyhoya wrote:
TenuredVulture wrote:To me, the big story isn't that the bail out is getting voted down, it's that it's getting voted on at all, even though the votes obviously weren't there.

I know there was some deal this morning, where the Democrats were supposed to get 150 votes for this thing, and the Republicans would come up with 70.

Dems ended up getting 140. GOP 65. Both didn't live up to their numbers.

I am in shock here. How can something supported by leadership on both sides and the White House fail?

hell, most of the people on this board are in agreement too.

amazing

my congressman, a republican,voted no?

by **VoxOrion** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 14:35:18

Hindsight appears to explain more and more why there was such a rush on Thursday - not a rush to solve a problem, but a rush to get it through before people started picking it apart and the phonecalls started pouring in.

by **jerseyhoya** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 14:36:35

From that Roll Call list, I'd say 4/5 of members in close races voted no. Every single member that I saw that was retiring voted yes.

by **Mountainphan** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 14:43:19

jerseyhoya wrote:
TenuredVulture wrote:To me, the big story isn't that the bail out is getting voted down, it's that it's getting voted on at all, even though the votes obviously weren't there.

I know there was some deal this morning, where the Democrats were supposed to get 150 votes for this thing, and the Republicans would come up with 70.

Dems ended up getting 140. GOP 65. Both didn't live up to their numbers.

I am in shock here. How can something supported by leadership on both sides and the White House fail?

I think what we're seeing is the result of mediocre to poor leadership. Some people are good leaders, some just ain't.

by **jerseyhoya** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 14:43:47

Chris Matthews carrying water for Obama right now. Making me want to hurl something at my TV.

STFU, YOU ARE IN THE MAJORITY YOU FUCKING RETARD

by **Mountainphan** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 14:45:46

jerseyhoya wrote:Chris Matthews carrying water for Obama right now. Making me want to hurl something at my TV.

STFU, YOU ARE IN THE MAJORITY YOU $#@! RETARD

He has a tingle that won't quit.

by **karn** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 14:46:38

That plan offered far more in the line of further risk than any clear path to reward. I am glad that it was voted down. Without near-overhaul, any future drafts should receive the same fate. It's time free market capitalism is put to the test.

by **TenuredVulture** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 14:46:58

Kucinich voted no.

by **CalvinBall** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 14:48:07

My representative, Joe Pitts, voted no. I would have peed on his lawn otherwise.

by **Monkeyboy** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 14:48:15

karn wrote:That plan offered far more in the line of further risk than any clear path to reward. I am glad that it was voted down. Without near-overhaul, any future drafts should receive the same fate. It's time free market capitalism is put to the test.

by **CalvinBall** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 14:50:48

I just bought a ton of stock in mattresses. It is going to be a growing industry here soon with everyone wanting to hide their money.

by **jerseyhoya** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 14:50:56

karn and monkeyboy vs. Hank Paulson and Barney Frank

by **TenuredVulture** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 14:51:27

Pascrell, Smith (NJ) also voted no.

All of the Arkansas delegation voted yes.

by **VoxOrion** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 14:51:46

My rep voted for it, but he's the piortrait of a party water boy.

by **karn** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 14:53:17

My Democratic congressman voted 'no' and I immediately e-mailed him a 'thank you' note.

by **CalvinBall** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 14:54:55

karn wrote:My Democratic congressman voted 'no' and I immediately e-mailed him a 'thank you' note.

I can't get to Pitts' website to see his email. Everyone must be emailing their congressman or the Greater Depression has begun leading to a crash of the internet.

by **VoxOrion** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 14:55:21

So I guess the story that Pelosi had the votes on Friday but didn't want to go to a vote without the Republicans isn't quite true in hindsight.

Or did the changes make her party go "no"?

by **VoxOrion** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 14:55:57

CalvinBall wrote:
karn wrote:My Democratic congressman voted 'no' and I immediately e-mailed him a 'thank you' note.

I can't get to Pitts' website to see his email. Everyone must be emailing their congressman or the Greater Depression has begun leading to a crash of the internet.

The coming revolution will be blogged. The internet is the only thing that will survive the coming Depression.

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