I turn my head and then Eickhoff? Phillies random thoughts

by **td11** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 19:06:51

McWilliams was one of our overslot high school guys couple years ago. He's really tall but a ways away and this is more creative than signing harang or Jerome so I'm into it

by **702** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 20:07:29

This move will make or break Klentak for the rest of his time here. Book it.

by **MoBettle** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 20:09:05

LAND THE PLANE

by **smitty** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 20:09:11

Hellickson is good when he commands his control. Fastball, change-up, curve combo. Changes speeds well when he's on his game.

by **76erfan** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 20:13:17

Like the move. Need one more sp like fister. Ozuna trade would be nice too

by **702** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 20:14:53

MoBettle wrote:LAND THE PLANE

by **my cousin mose** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 20:19:04

I'm just glad we didn't give up Cardenas or Brown

by 1 » Sat Nov 14, 2015 20:47:17

More like Shellickson, right?

by **mcare89** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 21:06:56

my cousin mose wrote:I'm just glad we didn't give up Cardenas or Brown

they shoulda kept Marson

by **Jimbo** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 21:08:21

ReadingPhilly wrote:meh trade imo. i'm certainly willing to trust the new regime though.

Kinda where I am with it. Can see the merit in it, but betting on him reverting back to actually being good is a bit of a gamble.

by **Monkeyboy** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 21:27:15

I think it all depends on how the prospect we gave up does. If he puts it together and turns into an all-star or a front end of the rotation starter, then this trade will look very bad. If he ends up anything less, then nobody will even care. Of course, we could also win the trade if hellickson turns it around and pitches well enough to get us something useful. We could end up with two or more prospects with upside instead of one.

Adding up the probabilities, I'm going to say it was a good trade since I think it's more likely than not that we'll either win it or end up not caring because nobody pitches well.

by **PTOITWCFTPP** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 21:39:23

mcare89 wrote:
my cousin mose wrote:I'm just glad we didn't give up Cardenas or Brown

they shoulda kept Marson

Hahaha I forgot about that guy

by **smitty** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 21:45:00

I'm gonna say good trade because I like the philosophy. A GCL guy for a big league pitcher. I like it. It might not work out. But we know that pitching is a funny game. We got a guy who can step right in to a rotation that has some holes right now. We have some youngsters who might work out but having a seasoned guy who is still young could help a lot.

by **Doll Is Mine** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 21:49:33

I've already forgotten the name of the prospect we sent to Arizona. Nobody will remember him when it's all said and done.

by **iladelph53** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 22:07:56

PhillyPhan wrote:Hellickson's second half was nearly a run and a half better. If he builds on that he's a quality arm.

He was actually great in July then bad in August, September, and October so that's a little deceiving.

by **td11** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 22:12:38

Doll Is Mine wrote:I've already forgotten the name of the prospect we sent to Arizona.

That's not saying much

by **Stay_Disappointed** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 23:04:27

76erfan wrote:Like the move. Need one more sp like fister. Ozuna trade would be nice too

Ozuna? Tell me more....

by **bleh** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 23:30:38

Warszawa wrote:
76erfan wrote:Like the move. Need one more sp like fister. Ozuna trade would be nice too

Ozuna? Tell me more....

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by **pacino** » Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:16:50

seems like a solid deal

by **pacino** » Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:17:38

Squire wrote:Solid move. I like McWilliams but he's at the bottom end of our 30. Hellickson still pretty young. Will eat innings and be credible.

yep, two things we were sorely missing last year. this will help the bullpen and the team overall just by him being competent. if he puts it all together again, then it's a great deal.

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