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Re: The future is Nola-nger so far away: Phillies thoughts

Postby Phred » Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:46:10

Wait...that's NOT a picture of David Bell?!?!

Actually, I agree 100% with phorever about the hows and whys it went down the way that it did and that Bell should never have been signed.

I still say that it was Polanco that blocked Utley. Just because the Phils didn't have the where-with-all to bench Bell and move Polanco to 3rd doesn't take the onus of being the blocker off of his shoulders. Utley had 1 position (ssshhhh...don't tell the Dodgers) and Placido was playing it.

That's just semantics, though.
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Re: The future is Nola-nger so far away: Phillies thoughts

Postby lethal » Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:47:35

Eem wrote:Phils may have made a postseason or two during 2003-2006 if:

1) They moved Polanco to 3B, called up Utley, and benched Bell
2) Thome didn't play hurt for most of 2005, keeping Howard in the minors

In 2005, the Phils finished 1 GB of YOUSTON for the WC. Thome played 59 games at 0.2 WAR (.712 OPS). Howard played just 88 and accumulated 3.1 WAR (.924 OPS).


If there were the 2 WC system in place back then, the Phillies would've won the 2nd WC twice in that span I think. Ed Wade and Larry Bowa might've not been fired and who knows if the success of the latter part of the decade happens at all.

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Re: The future is Nola-nger so far away: Phillies thoughts

Postby Eem » Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:51:02

lethal wrote:
Eem wrote:Phils may have made a postseason or two during 2003-2006 if:

1) They moved Polanco to 3B, called up Utley, and benched Bell
2) Thome didn't play hurt for most of 2005, keeping Howard in the minors

In 2005, the Phils finished 1 GB of YOUSTON for the WC. Thome played 59 games at 0.2 WAR (.712 OPS). Howard played just 88 and accumulated 3.1 WAR (.924 OPS).


If there were the 2 WC system in place back then, the Phillies would've won the 2nd WC twice in that span I think. Ed Wade and Larry Bowa might've not been fired and who knows if the success of the latter part of the decade happens at all.

You know, that's not a bad point
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Re: The future is Nola-nger so far away: Phillies thoughts

Postby Bucky » Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:53:59

CFP wrote:I'm not sure I've ever known of anyone to look at that situation that way, but there you have it.



it was talked about a lot like that in these very hallways (or, actually the hallways of our previous building)

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Re: The future is Nola-nger so far away: Phillies thoughts

Postby PhillieMooDo » Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:55:53

Bucky wrote:
CFP wrote:I'm not sure I've ever known of anyone to look at that situation that way, but there you have it.



it was talked about a lot like that in these very hallways (or, actually the hallways of our previous building)

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Re: The future is Nola-nger so far away: Phillies thoughts

Postby slugsrbad » Tue Sep 29, 2015 13:27:02

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Re: The future is Nola-nger so far away: Phillies thoughts

Postby Grotewold » Tue Sep 29, 2015 13:32:42

I bet Wade outstrips that goon in all facets

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Re: The future is Nola-nger so far away: Phillies thoughts

Postby Gimpy » Tue Sep 29, 2015 13:40:22

Joke's on him. The sign is to his left and is pointing at him.

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Re: The future is Nola-nger so far away: Phillies thoughts

Postby Doll Is Mine » Tue Sep 29, 2015 13:43:04

So when do we start hearing about offseason moves? Get to it, Andy!

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Re: The future is Nola-nger so far away: Phillies thoughts

Postby Grotewold » Tue Sep 29, 2015 14:22:09

Nice little write-up on Odubel

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Re: The future is Nola-nger so far away: Phillies thoughts

Postby The B1G Piece » Tue Sep 29, 2015 15:20:19

Doll Is Mine wrote:So when do we start hearing about offseason moves? Get to it, Andy!

normally when the season is over.

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Re: The future is Nola-nger so far away: Phillies thoughts

Postby BigEd76 » Tue Sep 29, 2015 16:06:53

Eem wrote:
lethal wrote:
Eem wrote:Phils may have made a postseason or two during 2003-2006 if:

1) They moved Polanco to 3B, called up Utley, and benched Bell
2) Thome didn't play hurt for most of 2005, keeping Howard in the minors

In 2005, the Phils finished 1 GB of YOUSTON for the WC. Thome played 59 games at 0.2 WAR (.712 OPS). Howard played just 88 and accumulated 3.1 WAR (.924 OPS).


If there were the 2 WC system in place back then, the Phillies would've won the 2nd WC twice in that span I think. Ed Wade and Larry Bowa might've not been fired and who knows if the success of the latter part of the decade happens at all.


You know, that's not a bad point


2006 - would've won the 2nd wildcard and visited LA, with the winner getting the 97-win Mets
2005 - would've won the 2nd wildcard and visited Houston, with the winner getting the 100-win Cardinals

Both of those seasons were under Charlie. Bowa had the surprising turnaround season in 01, they fell back to average in 02, battled and fell to the Marlins in 03 then finished 10 games back of ATL and 5th in the WC race in 04 and Bowa had run his course, so they made the change early and let Varsho coach that last weekend

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Re: The future is Nola-nger so far away: Phillies thoughts

Postby BigEd76 » Tue Sep 29, 2015 16:37:59

Mack said today he thinks Maik will play in the Marlins series (I guess he really wants that suit from Frenchy!), and he wouldn't be against Williams and/or Thompson joining the main club next year

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Re: The future is Nola-nger so far away: Phillies thoughts

Postby Phan In Phlorida » Tue Sep 29, 2015 16:40:59

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Re: The future is Nola-nger so far away: Phillies thoughts

Postby Phan In Phlorida » Tue Sep 29, 2015 16:43:27

CFP wrote:No, Polanco most definitely blocked Utley.

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Re: The future is Nola-nger so far away: Phillies thoughts

Postby WheelsFellOff » Tue Sep 29, 2015 20:53:00

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Re: The future is Nola-nger so far away: Phillies thoughts

Postby BigEd76 » Tue Sep 29, 2015 21:55:32

Barves win!

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Re: The future is Nola-nger so far away: Phillies thoughts

Postby Polar Bear Phan » Tue Sep 29, 2015 21:57:54

BigEd76 wrote:Barves win!

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Can safely root for 63-99!!!!

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Re: The future is Nola-nger so far away: Phillies thoughts

Postby WilliamC » Tue Sep 29, 2015 22:11:09

Thank God a ping pong ball can't fuck us.

This was a lot of work. Hopefully we go right at #1. If I jinxed #1 you can all stone me.
Do it again!

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