Phillies Thoughts: Randomness is Our Best Hope

Phillies Thoughts: Randomness is Our Best Hope

Postby Trent Steele » Thu Oct 30, 2014 13:21:26

Trent Steele wrote:Bovada has Phillies at 75 to 1 to win 2015 WS.

Only AZ, Col, Hou, and Minn are worse.

Nice.
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Re: Phillies Thoughts: Randomness is Our Best Hope

Postby Ace Rothstein » Thu Oct 30, 2014 13:22:52

put me down for a sawbuck....or a sawed-off

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Re: Phillies Thoughts: Randomness is Our Best Hope

Postby Wheels Tupay » Thu Oct 30, 2014 13:24:20

What does Vegas know about odds?
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Re: Phillies Thoughts: Randomness is Our Best Hope

Postby Shore » Thu Oct 30, 2014 13:27:22

Trent Steele wrote:
Trent Steele wrote:Bovada has Phillies at 75 to 1 to win 2015 WS.

Only AZ, Col, Hou, and Minn are worse.

Nice.



I'm pretty sure I'd swap rosters with Houston, without even looking anything up.

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Re: Phillies Thoughts: Randomness is Our Best Hope

Postby Rev_Beezer » Thu Oct 30, 2014 13:56:41

Someone should get a GM a hypnotist as a gift, with the SURPRISE ATTACK that would be hypnotizing that GM to desperately want Ryan Howard and Domonic Brown and willing to do ANYTHING to get them.
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Re: Phillies Thoughts: Randomness is Our Best Hope

Postby Doll Is Mine » Thu Oct 30, 2014 14:14:11

Matt Gelb @MattGelb
Phillies failed to trade players in July. Why will it work now? Amaro: "Our priorities now are a little different than they were in July."

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Re: Phillies Thoughts: Randomness is Our Best Hope

Postby heyeaglefn » Thu Oct 30, 2014 14:14:15

Declined option on Adams.

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Re: Phillies Thoughts: Randomness is Our Best Hope

Postby BigEd76 » Thu Oct 30, 2014 14:18:48

Gelb

General manager Ruben Amaro Jr. unveiled "The Phillies Way," a handbook distributed to all baseball personnel - coaches, scouts, athletic trainers included - during the team's organizational meetings this week.

The Phillies are not the first team to draft such a manual. Amaro planned it, well before the franchise shifted to a rebuilding phase, and decided this was the ideal time to affirm the team's direction.

There is a clearer course, at last, but the daunting application of said plan will require patience.

"We want to make sure we're implementing the things we've decided are important in the organization," Amaro said. "We're just looking to try to move forward."
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Amaro identified Cody Asche, Maikel Franco, Darin Ruf, Ben Revere and Domonic Brown as players to build around. He wants to foster a better developmental environment at the major-league level.

"Those are all younger players who need to be surrounded by quality people and players who can help us develop them as players and people," Amaro said.

Hence, the expedited one-year signings of outfielder Grady Sizemore and righthander Jerome Williams. They are the kind of fringe players a contending team adds in January, but ones a rebuilding team locks up in October.

Williams is not guaranteed a job in the rotation; the team views him more as a sixth starter/swing man type.
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Amaro declined to discuss Tomas, who was declared a free agent Oct. 2 and eligible to sign all month. The team's interest in him is logical; Amaro described "The Phillies Way" as a focused effort on best practices for player development.

Said Amaro: "The thought process is to design our decisions around rebuilding and identifying a new core of players that we can look to more on a long-term basis."

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Re: Phillies Thoughts: Randomness is Our Best Hope

Postby Polar Bear Phan » Thu Oct 30, 2014 14:19:52

Shore wrote:
Trent Steele wrote:
Trent Steele wrote:Bovada has Phillies at 75 to 1 to win 2015 WS.

Only AZ, Col, Hou, and Minn are worse.

Nice.



I'm pretty sure I'd swap rosters with Houston, without even looking anything up.


Yeah, I'm figuring the Astros get up to 80-85 wins next year.

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Re: Phillies Thoughts: Randomness is Our Best Hope

Postby Doll Is Mine » Thu Oct 30, 2014 14:56:46

Putting aside my opinion of Amaro, I like that plan. The problem is, can Amaro execute it?

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Re: Phillies Thoughts: Randomness is Our Best Hope

Postby Squire » Thu Oct 30, 2014 15:00:46

BigEd76 wrote:Gelb

General manager Ruben Amaro Jr. unveiled "The Phillies Way," a handbook distributed to all baseball personnel - coaches, scouts, athletic trainers included - during the team's organizational meetings this week.

The Phillies are not the first team to draft such a manual. Amaro planned it, well before the franchise shifted to a rebuilding phase, and decided this was the ideal time to affirm the team's direction.

There is a clearer course, at last, but the daunting application of said plan will require patience.

"We want to make sure we're implementing the things we've decided are important in the organization," Amaro said. "We're just looking to try to move forward."
.
.
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Amaro identified Cody Asche, Maikel Franco, Darin Ruf, Ben Revere and Domonic Brown as players to build around. He wants to foster a better developmental environment at the major-league level.

"Those are all younger players who need to be surrounded by quality people and players who can help us develop them as players and people," Amaro said.

Hence, the expedited one-year signings of outfielder Grady Sizemore and righthander Jerome Williams. They are the kind of fringe players a contending team adds in January, but ones a rebuilding team locks up in October.

Williams is not guaranteed a job in the rotation; the team views him more as a sixth starter/swing man type.
.
.
.
Amaro declined to discuss Tomas, who was declared a free agent Oct. 2 and eligible to sign all month. The team's interest in him is logical; Amaro described "The Phillies Way" as a focused effort on best practices for player development.

Said Amaro: "The thought process is to design our decisions around rebuilding and identifying a new core of players that we can look to more on a long-term basis."


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Chapter 2 - Quality Outs
Chapter 3 - A player is worth what we say he's worth.
Chapter 4 - Cost Certainty
Chapter 5 - Watch The Games
Chapter 6 - Proven Veterans
Chapter 7 - F U Missanelli
Chapter 8 - OBP is Just Letters

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Re: Phillies Thoughts: Randomness is Our Best Hope

Postby ReadingPhilly » Thu Oct 30, 2014 15:05:26

we're in trouble if that's who he plans to build around.

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Re: Phillies Thoughts: Randomness is Our Best Hope

Postby momadance » Thu Oct 30, 2014 15:07:48

ReadingPhilly wrote:we're in trouble if that's who he plans to build around.


My first thought too.

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Re: Phillies Thoughts: Randomness is Our Best Hope

Postby Wheels Tupay » Thu Oct 30, 2014 15:09:24

Why would a rebuilding team lock up players like sizemore and Williams in October? What am I missing?
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Re: Phillies Thoughts: Randomness is Our Best Hope

Postby Bill McNeal » Thu Oct 30, 2014 15:21:35

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Re: Phillies Thoughts: Randomness is Our Best Hope

Postby Squire » Thu Oct 30, 2014 15:29:47

Wheels Tupay wrote:Why would a rebuilding team lock up players like sizemore and Williams in October? What am I missing?


How else are Maikel Franco and JP Crawford going to figure it all out?????

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Re: Phillies Thoughts: Randomness is Our Best Hope

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Thu Oct 30, 2014 15:30:03

Squire wrote:
BigEd76 wrote:Gelb

General manager Ruben Amaro Jr. unveiled "The Phillies Way," a handbook distributed to all baseball personnel - coaches, scouts, athletic trainers included - during the team's organizational meetings this week.

The Phillies are not the first team to draft such a manual. Amaro planned it, well before the franchise shifted to a rebuilding phase, and decided this was the ideal time to affirm the team's direction.

There is a clearer course, at last, but the daunting application of said plan will require patience.

"We want to make sure we're implementing the things we've decided are important in the organization," Amaro said. "We're just looking to try to move forward."
.
.
.
Amaro identified Cody Asche, Maikel Franco, Darin Ruf, Ben Revere and Domonic Brown as players to build around. He wants to foster a better developmental environment at the major-league level.

"Those are all younger players who need to be surrounded by quality people and players who can help us develop them as players and people," Amaro said.

Hence, the expedited one-year signings of outfielder Grady Sizemore and righthander Jerome Williams. They are the kind of fringe players a contending team adds in January, but ones a rebuilding team locks up in October.

Williams is not guaranteed a job in the rotation; the team views him more as a sixth starter/swing man type.
.
.
.
Amaro declined to discuss Tomas, who was declared a free agent Oct. 2 and eligible to sign all month. The team's interest in him is logical; Amaro described "The Phillies Way" as a focused effort on best practices for player development.

Said Amaro: "The thought process is to design our decisions around rebuilding and identifying a new core of players that we can look to more on a long-term basis."


Rube really is a treasure.

Chapter 1 - Small Ball
Chapter 2 - Quality Outs
Chapter 3 - A player is worth what we say he's worth.
Chapter 4 - Cost Certainty
Chapter 5 - Watch The Games
Chapter 6 - Proven Veterans
Chapter 7 - F U Missanelli
Chapter 8 - OBP is Just Letters

You forgot the chapter on vesting options.

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Re: Phillies Thoughts: Randomness is Our Best Hope

Postby Phan In Phlorida » Thu Oct 30, 2014 15:33:05

BigEd76 wrote:Gelb

... Amaro identified Cody Asche, Maikel Franco, Darin Ruf, Ben Revere and Domonic Brown as players to build around.

So, the goal is to have two firstbasemen and a bad outfield?
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Re: Phillies Thoughts: Randomness is Our Best Hope

Postby CFP » Thu Oct 30, 2014 15:39:55

That's all they can build around for now, I suppose. They have to get rid of Howard. They have no choice at this point. He simply can't be on the roster next year.

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Re: Phillies Thoughts: Randomness is Our Best Hope

Postby Werthless » Thu Oct 30, 2014 15:52:52

Wheels Tupay wrote:Why would a rebuilding team lock up players like sizemore and Williams in October? What am I missing?

Not sure, but I think it has to do with signing players before they realize whether they have the option to sign with a real team.

If in February, a contending team has a need for an OF because they missed out on premium OF Free agents, they would call Sizemore then. We lock him up now, while no real team would be willing to commit to such a risky sign.

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