Werthless wrote:I kinda like how it's called "reproductive rights" by those that are interested in rights around limiting reproductive capacity.

who are those?

TenuredVulture wrote:

Werthless wrote:I kinda like how it's called "reproductive rights" by those that are interested in rights around limiting reproductive capacity. It would be like if people interested in "cloning rights" were those interested in the rights to kill clones. I enjoy imagining a bunch of Natalie Portman clones running around, and all of these "cloning rights advocates" arguing that the original Natalie should be allowed to create and destroy the fake Portmans. I'd watch that movie.

Limiting access to birth control and opposing sex education and slut shaming do not reduce the number of abortions. If you really opposed abortion, you'd promote comprehensive sex education and access to birth control.

"You" in the sense of "All the people out there promoting abstinence education," or me?

Sorry, still thinking about Natalie Portman clones.

drsmooth wrote:

Werthless wrote:I kinda like how it's called "reproductive rights" by those that are interested in rights around limiting reproductive capacity.

who are those?

Capacity is probably the wrong word. Abortions don't reduce reproductive capacity. I meant something like "incidence."

I'm just making fun of the phrase here. Reproduction refers to (or at least used to refer to) the production of a child. Although the etymology doesn't go back too far. But now, reproduction rights groups are interested in the laws and access to practices that limit the incidence of births. It's the opposite of reproduction... Child Prevention Activists?

It's like if people who were interested in "Gun Rights Activists" were the ones trying to reduce the number of guns out there. Hmmm, I may be 0 for 2.

Bucky wrote:

slugsrbad wrote:

Werthless wrote:I kinda like how it's called "reproductive rights" by those that are interested in rights around limiting reproductive capacity. It would be like if people interested in "cloning rights" were those interested in the rights to kill clones. I enjoy imagining a bunch of Natalie Portman clones running around, and all of these "cloning rights advocates" arguing that the original Natalie should be allowed to create and destroy the fake Portmans. I'd watch that movie.

PAGING CHARLIE KAUFMAN

Yes, there have been clone movies (6th Day, How to Kill Your Clone, The Island), but there can never be too many movies that grapple with the weighty issues.

birth control gives power to the female to decide when it's time for a child in their life. for some women maybe that time is sooner, some it's later. Some it may be never. Birth control limits abortions and prevents the ending of those fetuses' existence.

when a woman goes for an abortion, people for reproductive rights want respect for the woman's needs, not 'sidewalk counselors' threatening her and condemning her.

Look, if you don't feel people should ever have sex if they're not willing to create a potential new life every. single. time., that's an opinion.

Werthless wrote: Reproduction refers to (or at least used to refer to) the production of a child. Although the etymology doesn't go back too far. But now, reproduction rights groups are interested in the laws and access to practices that limit the incidence of births. It's the opposite of reproduction... Child Prevention Activists?

It's like if people who were interested in "Gun Rights Activists" were the ones trying to reduce the number of guns out there. Hmmm, I may be 0 for 2.

Do you really believe it's a pervasive goal of people who feel women should have latitude to make their own decisions about personally giving birth to "limit the incidence of births" inclusively, globally?

Because that seems both absurdly reductive and probably completely erroneous.

drsmooth wrote:Senator John Walsh (D-MT) gives new meaning to the expression "military intelligence"

Sorry General LG, but I mean ye gods

He's doubling down:

"I don't want to blame my mistake on PTSD, but I do want to say it may have been a factor," Walsh told The Associated Press. "My head was not in a place very conducive to a classroom and an academic environment."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/07 ... planation/

slugsrbad wrote:

drsmooth wrote:Senator John Walsh (D-MT) gives new meaning to the expression "military intelligence"

Sorry General LG, but I mean ye gods

He's doubling down:

"I don't want to blame my mistake on PTSD, but I do want to say it may have been a factor," Walsh told The Associated Press. "My head was not in a place very conducive to a classroom and an academic environment."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/07 ... planation/

someone like Al Franken should propose impeachment proceedings

Roger Dorn wrote:Another botched execution in Arizona

Solution: put the condemned on a Malaysian Airlines flight.

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(too soon?)

dajafi wrote:Look, if you don't feel people should ever have sex if they're not willing to create a potential new life every. single. time., that's an opinion.

Where do I suggest that's what I believe, let alone say that? Please quote me. I'm making fun of the branding that activists undertake. It's like Right to Life activists being pro capital punishment.

pacino wrote:birth control gives power to the female to decide when it's time for a child in their life. for some women maybe that time is sooner, some it's later. Some it may be never. Birth control limits abortions and prevents the ending of those fetuses' existence.

when a woman goes for an abortion, people for reproductive rights want respect for the woman's needs, not 'sidewalk counselors' threatening her and condemning her.

That's my point. People fighting for reproductive rights at 20 weeks aren't taking the position that reproduction should occur. It's that maybe it shouldn't!

You guys are so wound up tight. You'd think my comments about clones and natalie portman would have suggested I wasnt make a grand statement that contraception is bad and reproductive rights activists are all whack jobs.

Can we all agree - there is no dumber conflict than the "War on Drugs" ?

The surge of unaccompanied minors coming across America’s southern border has given rise to a humanitarian crisis, and with it, debates about immigration policy and border security. Lost in these discussions, however, is the role the American drug war has played in creating the crisis. And this is only the latest crisis. For decades, Washington’s crusade against illegal drugs has destroyed lives, destabilized civil society and generally wreaked havoc on Mexico and the countries of Central and South America.

http://www.cato.org/publications/commen ... ign=buffer

Israel shelled a UN shelter for fleeing victims of the fighting in Gaza

was there a piece of artillery next to it?

Werthless wrote:

dajafi wrote:Look, if you don't feel people should ever have sex if they're not willing to create a potential new life every. single. time., that's an opinion.

Where do I suggest that's what I believe, let alone say that? Please quote me. I'm making fun of the branding that activists undertake. It's like Right to Life activists being pro capital punishment.

p. sure dajafi wasn't talking to you

CalvinBall wrote:was there a piece of artillery next to it?

Terrific surgical strike

Werthless wrote:That's my point. People fighting for reproductive rights at 20 weeks aren't taking the position that reproduction should occur. It's that maybe it shouldn't!

You guys are so wound up tight. You'd think my comments about clones and natalie portman would have suggested I wasnt make a grand statement that contraception is bad and reproductive rights activists are all whack jobs.

that your strained, presumptious "observation" apparently doubles YOU over in mirth says volumes. And so you know, that you're butthurt nobody cares to credit your yuks is in fact the funny thing

Bucky wrote:

Werthless wrote:

dajafi wrote:Look, if you don't feel people should ever have sex if they're not willing to create a potential new life every. single. time., that's an opinion.

Where do I suggest that's what I believe, let alone say that? Please quote me. I'm making fun of the branding that activists undertake. It's like Right to Life activists being pro capital punishment.

p. sure dajafi wasn't talking to you

Correct. Maybe I should have written "one" rather than "you"...

An idiot and a piece of shit to boot.

drsmooth wrote:Senator John Walsh (D-MT) gives new meaning to the expression "military intelligence"

Sorry General LG, but I mean ye gods