Doubleday's Random Matter

Re: Doubleday's Random Matter

Postby etched Chaos » Wed Jul 03, 2013 08:45:35

Pap said it's stupid for Pweeg to be an all-star when he hasn't even been up a month.
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Re: Doubleday's Random Matter

Postby CalvinBall » Wed Jul 03, 2013 09:40:20

i kind of agree with olney there.

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Re: Doubleday's Random Matter

Postby pacino » Wed Jul 03, 2013 09:41:39

that would mean no pitcher ever gets to be an allstar. hard to have a game.
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Re: Doubleday's Random Matter

Postby Soren » Wed Jul 03, 2013 09:41:55

he's comparing apples to potatoes.
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Re: Doubleday's Random Matter

Postby Ace Rothstein » Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:00:49

Olney can't be serious with that

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Re: Doubleday's Random Matter

Postby CalvinBall » Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:03:39

pap was the one who used it as an argument against puig being in the all start game

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Re: Doubleday's Random Matter

Postby etched Chaos » Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:07:09

CalvinBall wrote:pap was the one who used it as an argument against puig being in the all start game


Pap said Pweeg had not been up a month yet and it was stupid, he made no mention of innings. Olney is talking complete and utter shit.
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Re: Doubleday's Random Matter

Postby Ace Rothstein » Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:09:32

CalvinBall wrote:pap was the one who used it as an argument against puig being in the all start game



No he didn't

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Re: Doubleday's Random Matter

Postby CalvinBall » Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:10:50

pap's point was he hasnt played enough, olneys point is pap also does not play that much.

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Re: Doubleday's Random Matter

Postby Ace Rothstein » Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:13:50

CalvinBall wrote:pap's point was he hasnt played enough, olneys point is pap also does not play that much.


He is comparing a starting OF to a RP, there in itself shows the ignorance of that comment....as Pac said if that's the case there wouldn't be any pitchers worth being all stars

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Re: Doubleday's Random Matter

Postby smitty » Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:55:07

Ace Rothstein wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:pap's point was he hasnt played enough, olneys point is pap also does not play that much.


He is comparing a starting OF to a RP, there in itself shows the ignorance of that comment....as Pac said if that's the case there wouldn't be any pitchers worth being all stars


Iron Man Mcginnity would be worthy. We could dig him up and he could pitch for both teams.

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Re: Doubleday's Random Matter

Postby Didn't I? » Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:02:43

HOW MANY PITCHES HAS PUIG THROWN THIS SEASON?
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Re: Doubleday's Random Matter

Postby The Nightman Cometh » Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:33:16

CalvinBall wrote:pap's point was he hasnt played enough, olneys point is pap also does not play that much.

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Re: Doubleday's Random Matter

Postby CalvinBall » Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:35:23

which part do you disagree with?

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Re: Doubleday's Random Matter

Postby phatj » Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:36:16

It's a stupid point. Pap isn't campaigning for himself to be an All-Star, so it's totally irrelevant.
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Re: Doubleday's Random Matter

Postby Shore » Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:48:30

CalvinBall wrote:which part do you disagree with?


OF aren't selected instead of RP. OF are selected instead of other OF.

Pap plays as often as his role demands, typically 50 to 70 high-leverage innings. It's his job description. Sometimes he's selected to the all star team, over other pitchers who pitch typically the same number of innings, in the same or similar situations.

Puig has played 27 of the Dodgers 82 games this year. His role, the role in which he is competing for an all star spot, generally demands 140 to 155 games in a year, 85 to 95%. He's played in 33% of his team's games. I believe there are 63 NL outfielders with more games played than him so far, in the role he's allegedly an all star.

In order to qualify for the batting title, I believe you need 3.1 AB per team game. You can still win without that, but to calculate, they add enough AB to qualify you, with no additional hits. Thus, Puig's AVG (a ridiculous .443) computes to .185 for batting title purposes. That gives you an idea of how little he's played.

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Re: Doubleday's Random Matter

Postby Bucky » Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:54:47

calvin it's like the last six months was a mirage

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Re: Doubleday's Random Matter

Postby CalvinBall » Wed Jul 03, 2013 13:02:57

Shore wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:which part do you disagree with?


OF aren't selected instead of RP. OF are selected instead of other OF.

Pap plays as often as his role demands, typically 50 to 70 high-leverage innings. It's his job description. Sometimes he's selected to the all star team, over other pitchers who pitch typically the same number of innings, in the same or similar situations.

Puig has played 27 of the Dodgers 82 games this year. His role, the role in which he is competing for an all star spot, generally demands 140 to 155 games in a year, 85 to 95%. He's played in 33% of his team's games. I believe there are 63 NL outfielders with more games played than him so far, in the role he's allegedly an all star.

In order to qualify for the batting title, I believe you need 3.1 AB per team game. You can still win without that, but to calculate, they add enough AB to qualify you, with no additional hits. Thus, Puig's AVG (a ridiculous .443) computes to .185 for batting title purposes. That gives you an idea of how little he's played.


thats all fine and i agree that he hasnt played in a lot of games. i read olneys tweet as "that was a silly statement by someone who also doesnt play in a lot of games regardless of role." also, it is the all star game. so who fucking cares?

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Re: Doubleday's Random Matter

Postby cartersDad26 » Wed Jul 03, 2013 13:27:45

I think it's Pap saying - hey fuck this hyped up kid, he hasn't earned it yet.
pap probably also doesn't think much of commies from cuba.

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Re: Doubleday's Random Matter

Postby The B1G Piece » Wed Jul 03, 2013 13:28:17

if Pweeg didn't act like a total ass on the field Pap doesn't make the comment, IMO.

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