drsmooth wrote:So to recap, basically the consensus here is that this "move" defies each and every impulse of reason expressed since Descartes was a pup?
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by jerseyhoya » Mon Apr 26, 2010 15:11:32
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by The Nightman Cometh » Mon Apr 26, 2010 15:13:39
Bucky wrote:Love it.
What other choice is there? It happened. Nothing we can do about it. Might as well hope for the best for the Big Guy.
My other choice is to hate it and then rub people's noses in it when the inevitable happens like every other person on a message board in the history of the internets.
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by The Crimson Cyclone » Mon Apr 26, 2010 15:14:18
Im with the Savior, I'm happy to have good guys like Howard and Utley as career long players in Philly.
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by Woody » Mon Apr 26, 2010 15:15:57
"good guys"
wait till jeff2sf's latest breaking news hits the board
wait till jeff2sf's latest breaking news hits the board
you sure do seem to have a lot of time on your hands to be on this forum? Do you have a job? Are you a shut-in?
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by joe table » Mon Apr 26, 2010 15:15:57
The Crimson Cyclone wrote:Im with Dawk, I'm happy to have good guys like Howard and Utley as career long players in Philly.
I will be too. However: answer me this:
What upside did the Phillies gain, from taking the risk to extend him 1.9 years before his free agency, while still playing him a premium on Teixiera's annual deal, through his age 37 season?
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by philliesr98 » Mon Apr 26, 2010 15:16:00
Kurjikan will quote 30 different stats about how a large african american player never made this much money in a certain amount of years while still striking out a bunch and hitting average homeruns of 398 feet or greater, all while batting from the 4 hole with a lefty in front of him and on a team whose mascot is green and has a nose of equivalent or greater mass than a full grown pot belly pig.
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by jerseyhoya » Mon Apr 26, 2010 15:16:09
The Savior wrote:jerseyhoya wrote:Trent Steele wrote:The Savior wrote:you pussies cry when they don't resign people and cry when they do
$#@! off
glad to have howard forever. don't give a $#@! how bad he's gonna be in 4 years. love the dude.
With all due respect, that's really stupid. BUt I think you know that.
with all due respect, it's a great signing. it sure is fun to brainstorm ideas of ways to let howard go or trade him for player X and Y, then sign player Z, and bam...we're still contending.
sorry, but this team was miserable for way too long and spent so much time letting their stars piss-and-moan their way out of town. they're spending now like never before. we're approaching red sox-levels of spending and marketing here.
it's one big cryfest. be happy that a dude wanted to stay here and finish out his career. and it's a dude who apparently a great teammate and darn good player.
but whatever. overanalyze the finances of the deal because i'm sure you all know what the economics of the game will be in 7 years anyway. well, you probably know more than the phillies at least.
No what's really stupid is you saying you don't care how bad he's going to be in four years. In four years we're going to be on the hook for $60-73 million dollars for his 35, 36, and 37 year old seasons.
I hope he can remain productive and that this deal doesn't become an albatross, but it's not a "great" deal. At best we're paying a guy fair market value. It's not like he's giving us some awesome discount to stay. I don't think we have to act like he's doing us some big favor for only making $164-$177 million dollars guaranteed to play baseball for our team for the next seven years.
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by drsmooth » Mon Apr 26, 2010 15:16:31
Phan In Phlorida wrote:Assuming they're planning on a massive revenue bump...
what will the new Phillies network be named? PHES?
to generate sufficient revenue, PHES PLUS Porn (With In-Game Updates)
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by 1 » Mon Apr 26, 2010 15:16:55
jeff2sf wrote:Jim Thome did the following:
Age 30: 49 HR
Age 31: 52 HR
Age 32: 47 HR
Age 33: 42 HR
Age 34: 7 HR
Age 35: 42 HR
Age 36: 35 HR
Age 37: 34 HR
That ain't not bad.
but, not all in the field..
Fine. You wanna act like you're two? I'll act like I'm one.
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by Wheels Tupay » Mon Apr 26, 2010 15:17:13
Bucky wrote:Love it.
What other choice is there? It happened. Nothing we can do about it. Might as well hope for the best for the Big Guy.
We could have not resigned him or traded him.
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by jamiethekiller » Mon Apr 26, 2010 15:17:48
jeff2sf wrote:Jim Thome did the following:
Age 30: 49 HR
Age 31: 52 HR
Age 32: 47 HR
Age 33: 42 HR
Age 34: 7 HR
Age 35: 42 HR
Age 36: 35 HR
Age 37: 34 HR
That ain't not bad.
and he never had an OBP lower than .360. howards ceiling it seems is .360 for OBP
its fine if you're aging and youre power drops as long as you're still useful. howard isn't useful UNLESS he's hitting for power.
but like you note, it looks like Thome is Howards base case scenario.
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by drsmooth » Mon Apr 26, 2010 15:20:03
jeff2sf wrote:Jim Thome did the following:
Age 30: 49 HR
Age 31: 52 HR
Age 32: 47 HR
Age 33: 42 HR
Age 34: 7 HR
Age 35: 42 HR
Age 36: 35 HR
Age 37: 34 HR
That ain't not bad.
You left Thome's contract info off of there
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by jeff2sf » Mon Apr 26, 2010 15:22:36
drsmooth wrote:jeff2sf wrote:Jim Thome did the following:
Age 30: 49 HR
Age 31: 52 HR
Age 32: 47 HR
Age 33: 42 HR
Age 34: 7 HR
Age 35: 42 HR
Age 36: 35 HR
Age 37: 34 HR
That ain't not bad.
You left Thome's contract info off of there
inflation, smoothie. Inflation.
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