http://bbref.com/pi/shareit/RhKMk

this is a list of the seasons where a player between the age of 35 and 38 has hit more than 40 homeruns. its only been done 22 times in baseball history.

The charts Howard and his dad showed Rube this time must have been awesome. Fancy colors and fonts and what not.

drsmooth wrote:So to recap, basically the consensus here is that this "move" defies each and every impulse of reason expressed since Descartes was a pup?

we're not talking about hockey players smoothy

If anyone's angry it's St. Louis. Now they have to give Albert 6/$180M

I was somewhat okay with this but the 10 million buyout is so dumb its not even funny.

Assuming they're planning on a massive revenue bump...

what will the new Phillies network be named? PHES?

jerseyhoya wrote:

The Nightman Cometh wrote:This is stupid.

The window is closing and I'm pretty sure we are gonna suck in a few years, but we really had a chance to do some damage until probably 2013 and this will really handcuff us. Even though fangraphs will want to fight me there is no way Howard is worth 20 and 25 million and he's pretty likely to have big man drop off well within that contrat. Stupid stupid stupid.

How does this handcuff us if the window goes to 2013. The problem years are presumably 2014-16 on this deal.

Because we have a ton of money already tied up they next few years and Howard is not worth this money even if he doesn't drop off. I honestly don't care about the last few years because I am fully expecting us to be rebuilding those years. I want WFC through 2013 and this does not help that.

I think you could find a competent replacement for Howard and get more value for that $ elsewhere on the team, basically.

A Phillies network would be pretty awesome. Any reason it hasn't happened yet?

I like Howard as much as the next person.

He is soo streaky that I wonder what the overall reaction would be if he were ballin right now instead of having an OBP of .300 and slugging .450

All that being said, I still really don't think this is a great decision. Ultimately Howard wins, phillies lose on this one I believe.

Phan In Phlorida wrote:Assuming they're planning on a massive revenue bump...

what will the new Phillies network be named? PHES?

TMPB

BigEd76 wrote:If anyone's angry it's St. Louis. Now they have to give Albert 6/$180M

If Howard is 5/$125, Pujols is worth 6/$200

The Eeming Tree wrote:A Phillies network would be pretty awesome. Any reason it hasn't happened yet?

Can you imagine the awesomeness of a Charlie Manuel Show marathon?

Trent Steele wrote:

BigEd76 wrote:If anyone's angry it's St. Louis. Now they have to give Albert 6/$180M

If Howard is 5/$125, Pujols is worth 6/$200

Seriously.

The Eeming Tree wrote:A Phillies network would be pretty awesome. Any reason it hasn't happened yet?

they own a decent chunk of CSN Philly

drsmooth wrote:So to recap, basically the consensus here is that this "move" defies each and every impulse of reason expressed since Descartes was a pup?

I knew a guy who had a dog named Descartes. He also owned a horse. When he went riding and the dog ran ahead he liked to say he was putting Descartes before the horse.

You were expecting that, right?

Maybe they're about to announce the construction of an additional 35,000 seats at CBP.

jerseyhoya wrote:

Trent Steele wrote:

The Savior wrote:you pussies cry when they don't resign people and cry when they do

$#@! off

glad to have howard forever. don't give a $#@! how bad he's gonna be in 4 years. love the dude.

With all due respect, that's really stupid. BUt I think you know that.

with all due respect, it's a great signing. it sure is fun to brainstorm ideas of ways to let howard go or trade him for player X and Y, then sign player Z, and bam...we're still contending.

sorry, but this team was miserable for way too long and spent so much time letting their stars piss-and-moan their way out of town. they're spending now like never before. we're approaching red sox-levels of spending and marketing here.

it's one big cryfest. be happy that a dude wanted to stay here and finish out his career. and it's a dude who apparently a great teammate and darn good player.

but whatever. overanalyze the finances of the deal because i'm sure you all know what the economics of the game will be in 7 years anyway. well, you probably know more than the phillies at least.

Hopefully Howard continues his trend of refusing to let opposing pitchers walk him.

My guess is the experts will hate the deal and Tim Kurkijan will love it.

That should tell you everything you need to know.

Napalm wrote:

Phan In Phlorida wrote:Assuming they're planning on a massive revenue bump...

what will the new Phillies network be named? PHES?

TMPB

to clarify, tmpb means T-Mac Phillies Block

3 hours of a fun filled broadcast with t-mac and the gang, with their wacky hijinks and shitty catchphrases.

btw, t-mac signs an 11 year 2 million dollar deal to stay on for tmpb