Grotewold wrote:

Shore wrote:

Grotewold wrote:Yes my hope that he can do what he did last year vs. RHP in more games and get benched vs. LHP is pretty pie in the sky

Yes, if we can only recapture the magic of those 8 homers he hit in 76 games / 230 PA vs RHP, everything will be OK

Honestly, he had a nice OPS vs RHP last year, but had a .370 BABip against them, too. .334 for his career.

He looked awful last year, physically. If it's arthritic knees, that's a major concern, obviously. And I would obviously cut bait if possible.

But let's not completely discount the possibility that he feels better and performs somewhere between last year's and 2011's production TM

bleh wrote:he'll sign a 1 yr deal with the Rays in 2017 and hit 50 HR.

JFLNYC wrote:I wouldn't discount the possibility. But there was a pretty darn significant intervening event between the end of his 2011 season and now.

bleh wrote:he'll sign a 1 yr deal with the Rays in 2017 and hit 50 HR.

JFLNYC wrote:I think a point Jeff made isn't made enough: The problem isn't that we're overpaying some guys, it's that we're overplaying them.

"We think Roberto Hernandez will help us," Amaro said. "Our scouts and our analytics people looked at the middle-of-the-road, back-end starters and we felt like he would be a good choice for us."

"He gave up a lot of homers last year and we think that's atypical with what he does," Amaro said. "He's more of a ground-ball guy. We think that he's going to be better than that, particularly."

CFP wrote:Gelb, with Amaro quotes on Hernandez:

"We think Roberto Hernandez will help us," Amaro said. "Our scouts and our analytics people looked at the middle-of-the-road, back-end starters and we felt like he would be a good choice for us."

"He gave up a lot of homers last year and we think that's atypical with what he does," Amaro said. "He's more of a ground-ball guy. We think that he's going to be better than that, particularly."

"I don’t know if he's a three starter," Amaro said. "I know he’s pretty reliable, pretty consistent. He has over 60 wins over the last several years. For a guy that I guess takes a lot of heat, he still wins baseball games. We need people to eat up innings and be reliable and he's been one of those guys for us."

phillies wrote:

"I don’t know if he's a three starter," Amaro said. "I know he’s pretty reliable, pretty consistent. He has over 60 wins over the last several years. For a guy that I guess takes a lot of heat, he still wins baseball games. We need people to eat up innings and be reliable and he's been one of those guys for us."

Grotewold wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:I wouldn't discount the possibility. But there was a pretty darn significant intervening event between the end of his 2011 season and now.

Did you miss my thing about the arthritic knees and even I wishing to cut bait if we could? As for the rest of BSG, I feel like the possibility of Howard sucking forever has been pretty well priced in

Trent Steele wrote:oh god just shut up

JFLNYC wrote:

Grotewold wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:I wouldn't discount the possibility. But there was a pretty darn significant intervening event between the end of his 2011 season and now.

Did you miss my thing about the arthritic knees and even I wishing to cut bait if we could? As for the rest of BSG, I feel like the possibility of Howard sucking forever has been pretty well priced in

I saw your reference to the arthritic knees. I didn't see the one about the ruptured Achilles, though.