That's perhaps the most depressing thing about the recent direction of the franchise: We're no longer a preferred destination for the best.

I really have no idea how to evaluate a pitching coach, but I'm pretty sure this is not good.

2012 Red Sox pitchers


2013 Red Sox


Get excite!

JFLNYC wrote:That's perhaps the most depressing thing about the recent direction of the franchise: We're no longer a preferred destination for the best.

whudderyou talking about? we just signed MARTIN BIRD for chrissakes

Bill McNeal wrote:I really have no idea how to evaluate a pitching coach, but I'm pretty sure this is not good.

That was something of a crazy year for that team. Epstein and/or Cherington hired him, right?

Can we just bring Dubee back?

Grotewold wrote:

Bill McNeal wrote:I really have no idea how to evaluate a pitching coach, but I'm pretty sure this is not good.

That was something of a crazy year for that team. Epstein and/or Cherington hired him, right?

According to wiki

In November 2011, the Boston Red Sox confirmed reports that they had hired McClure as a scout, roving minor league pitching instructor, and special assistant for player development.[7] On December 21, 2011, McClure was promoted to pitching coach for Boston's major league team.[8] He was fired from this position on August 20.[9]

Epstein started with the cubs in Oct. 2011 and Cherrington took over the sox at that point. Valentine was hired as manager on November 29th. So yeah, there was a lot going on in that time frame, but I mean, this offseason they cleaned house again (sans gm) and posted huge improvements almost across the board. Like I said, I have no idea how to evaluate a PC, but that just doesn't look good to me.

BigEd76 wrote:Steaks says Bob McClure is the lead candidate for the pitching coach job. The three places he coached: the shitty Rockies, the shitty Royals and the last-place 2012 Sawx. Get excited

oh shit i stopped reading after mcclure thinking this was just a well placed simpsons reference.

the wrong brother jokes write themselves!

Bill McNeal wrote:

Grotewold wrote:

Bill McNeal wrote:I really have no idea how to evaluate a pitching coach, but I'm pretty sure this is not good.

That was something of a crazy year for that team. Epstein and/or Cherington hired him, right?

According to wiki

In November 2011, the Boston Red Sox confirmed reports that they had hired McClure as a scout, roving minor league pitching instructor, and special assistant for player development.[7] On December 21, 2011, McClure was promoted to pitching coach for Boston's major league team.[8] He was fired from this position on August 20.[9]

Epstein started with the cubs in Oct. 2011 and Cherrington took over the sox at that point. Valentine was hired as manager on November 29th. So yeah, there was a lot going on in that time frame, but I mean, this offseason they cleaned house again (sans gm) and posted huge improvements almost across the board. Like I said, I have no idea how to evaluate a PC, but that just doesn't look good to me.

That feels far too reminiscent of when the Skins hired Jim Zorn for Offensive Coordinator, then moved him up to head coach a few weeks later.

always confuse mcclure with MOOSE HAAS

Hi, I'm Bob McClure. You might remember me from such baseball jobs as Royals pitching coach and Rockies pitching coach.

stevelxa476 wrote:Hi, I'm Bob McClure. You might remember me from such baseball jobs as Royals pitching coach and Rockies pitching coach.

McNeal should post his here. This could go on all day.

Deal is done.

that's a really meh hire. was excited at the prospect of benedict or mcdowell but it appears anyone worth a damn is staying away from this neanderthal organization. i would've just promoted nichols after all the rejections.

Well it looks like Valentine hated him

So that's something

Everything Rube has done in the last year has infuriated me

Fun fact (or a fact, at least): Lou Seal is a former phanstormer!

Word is life.

Roger Dorn wrote:Everything Rube has done in the last year has infuriated me

Boo