Squire wrote:Today is the day that MLB clubs have to add guys to the 40 man roster to protect them from the Rule 5 draft.

Guys like Altherr, Dugan, Joseph, Rasmussen, Hewitt, Rosin, Buchanan, Jay Johnson will need to be protected or be subject to possible selection.

This all goes back to what, really, is the plan in Philadelphia. It’s not the money spent on Byrd and Ruiz that’s the problem here, because really, the money isn’t that much. It’s the filling of two empty spots with guys who are decent enough, but not at all difference makers. You can’t simply cross your fingers and hope that Howard is less awful, that both Utley & Rollins will stay healthy and productive as they age another year, that late-career Ruiz & Byrd both resemble the one good season they’ve had in the last two rather than the one bad season.

ReadingPhilly wrote:altherr, dugan and joseph are sure things. hewitt is a tough call. could see johnson as well.

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:There's no freaking point to these moves unless he has a trade planned (unlikely but whatever). Either go big with the likes of Choo and McCann (and I'm on record as wanting neither of them) or go home.

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/whats-the-plan-in-philadelphia/

Well said

This all goes back to what, really, is the plan in Philadelphia. It’s not the money spent on Byrd and Ruiz that’s the problem here, because really, the money isn’t that much. It’s the filling of two empty spots with guys who are decent enough, but not at all difference makers. You can’t simply cross your fingers and hope that Howard is less awful, that both Utley & Rollins will stay healthy and productive as they age another year, that late-career Ruiz & Byrd both resemble the one good season they’ve had in the last two rather than the one bad season.

There's no freaking point to these moves unless he has a trade planned (unlikely but whatever). Either go big with the likes of Choo and McCann (and I'm on record as wanting neither of them) or go home.

My one knock on the writeup is that he ignores Amaro's incentive to not tear down the team until the new TV contract is signed. So perhaps we'll see a number of rebuilding moves (e.g., trading Lee) this season if the deal gets done.

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RichmondPhilsFan wrote:There's no freaking point to these moves unless he has a trade planned (unlikely but whatever). Either go big with the likes of Choo and McCann (and I'm on record as wanting neither of them) or go home.

My one knock on the writeup is that he ignores Amaro's incentive to not tear down the team until the new TV contract is signed. So perhaps we'll see a number of rebuilding moves (e.g., trading Lee) this season if the deal gets done.

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Grotewold wrote:

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:There's no freaking point to these moves unless he has a trade planned (unlikely but whatever). Either go big with the likes of Choo and McCann (and I'm on record as wanting neither of them) or go home.


My one knock on the writeup is that he ignores Amaro's incentive to not tear down the team until the new TV contract is signed. So perhaps we'll see a number of rebuilding moves (e.g., trading Lee) this season if the deal gets done.

Seems you're assuming there's no big signing coming, which is quite possible, and/or a couple more minor signings.

But in that case what exactly is the problem? No picks lost, no prospects lost, and better players at RF and C who aren't blocking anyone. Odds of things coalescing into an exciting season are lower than the Nats' and Braves', but not zero.

And yeah, they could do the tear down people want at any time, and/or flip a Byrd (hehe) or Ruiz or whoever for value.

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Grotewold wrote:

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:There's no freaking point to these moves unless he has a trade planned (unlikely but whatever). Either go big with the likes of Choo and McCann (and I'm on record as wanting neither of them) or go home.

My one knock on the writeup is that he ignores Amaro's incentive to not tear down the team until the new TV contract is signed. So perhaps we'll see a number of rebuilding moves (e.g., trading Lee) this season if the deal gets done.

Seems you're assuming there's no big signing coming, which is quite possible, and/or a couple more minor signings.

But in that case what exactly is the problem? No picks lost, no prospects lost, and better players at RF and C who aren't blocking anyone. Odds of things coalescing into an exciting season are lower than the Nats' and Braves', but not zero.

And yeah, they could do the tear down people want at any time, and/or flip a Byrd (hehe) or Ruiz or whoever for value.

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ReadingPhilly wrote:altherr, dugan and joseph are sure things. hewitt is a tough call. could see johnson as well.

I didn't realize how good a season Altherr had this year in Clearwater. I'm not sure if teams would take an OF from High A ball, but I don't have a problem putting him on the 40 man.