joe table wrote:Holy shit just catching up on the last 7 or so pages of this thread

TATERs please go gas yourselves

Board sucks now

td11 wrote:

joe table wrote:Holy #$!&@ just catching up on the last 7 or so pages of this thread

TATERs please go gas yourselves

Board sucks now

i just did the same and yeah. we all know the team blows and has a 99% chance of not making the playoffs or whatever. let's please focus on more dick jokes, we've lost our way

joe table wrote:edgy

shit on the shitty team all you want, just don't talk shit about manuel you cheesedicks

JFLNYC wrote:Per FG, Frandsen and Mayberry are tied for 5th on the team in WAR, ahead of both Youngs, Revere and Howard.

dajafi wrote:

Trent Steele wrote:http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/phillies/Amaro-addresses-his-plan-for-the-present-and-future.html

Pretty good article by High Cheese. Does everything but call Amaro a complete moron who #$!&@ himself on purpose. I approve.

Brutal, and tough to argue with.

swishnicholson wrote:

dajafi wrote:

Trent Steele wrote:http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/phillies/Amaro-addresses-his-plan-for-the-present-and-future.html

Pretty good article by High Cheese. Does everything but call Amaro a complete moron who #$!&@ himself on purpose. I approve.

Brutal, and tough to argue with.

Meh. We're in the midst of some sort of plan whether Rube wants to talk about it or not. This is a team that always hedged its bets for this year.We could have easily had an outfield of Hunter Pence , Michael Bourn and Dom Brown without Amaro needing any more intelligence than your average box turtle. But clearly the idea was to try and gather/retain prospects and draft picks and not make any commitments that would hamstring you in future years. Meanwhile you hoped for the best from people like Utley and Howard and Halladay, along with a more reliable set of above average players like Lee, Papelbon, Hamels, Rollins and Ruiz, but certainly didn't go all in as if you were sure to be a contending team.

The huge gaffes that the article cites are the Howard contract, which is inarguable, the Lee trade, which is the sort of thing that teams overcome all the time (especially when they end up with Lee back anyway) and failing to sign a free agent n 2011.I'm not sure who he's talking about there. Would we feel better about this team with Lance Berkman on it? As with almost all recent years, just about everyone on the list has been long in the tooth and wanting long term contracts. Hardly anyone would smooth the transition from an aging core-they would just join it. Andthe exceptions had plenty of bidders.

I have no idea how Rube will handle a team in transition. We could be sinking down for a prolonged spell, or make a rapid recovery. Heck maybe Utley, Hallday, Ruiz and Howard will come storming back and we'll have a magical season. Pretty sure actual magic would have to be used, but you never know. If the Phillies fail to get things looking on the way up , probably within the next year, then Amaro should certainly pay the price. But to regard him as a guy who thinks he's got s'mores when all he has is toast is silly, I think. Every action of his shows he's planning for the future. Whether he'll do that well or not, I have no idea.

swishnicholson wrote:

dajafi wrote:

Trent Steele wrote:http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/phillies/Amaro-addresses-his-plan-for-the-present-and-future.html

Pretty good article by High Cheese. Does everything but call Amaro a complete moron who #$!&@ himself on purpose. I approve.

Brutal, and tough to argue with.

Meh. We're in the midst of some sort of plan whether Rube wants to talk about it or not. This is a team that always hedged its bets for this year.We could have easily had an outfield of Hunter Pence , Michael Bourn and Dom Brown without Amaro needing any more intelligence than your average box turtle. But clearly the idea was to try and gather/retain prospects and draft picks and not make any commitments that would hamstring you in future years. Meanwhile you hoped for the best from people like Utley and Howard and Halladay, along with a more reliable set of above average players like Lee, Papelbon, Hamels, Rollins and Ruiz, but certainly didn't go all in as if you were sure to be a contending team.

The huge gaffes that the article cites are the Howard contract, which is inarguable, the Lee trade, which is the sort of thing that teams overcome all the time (especially when they end up with Lee back anyway) and failing to sign a free agent n 2011.I'm not sure who he's talking about there. Would we feel better about this team with Lance Berkman on it? As with almost all recent years, just about everyone on the list has been long in the tooth and wanting long term contracts. Hardly anyone would smooth the transition from an aging core-they would just join it. Andthe exceptions had plenty of bidders.

I have no idea how Rube will handle a team in transition. We could be sinking down for a prolonged spell, or make a rapid recovery. Heck maybe Utley, Hallday, Ruiz and Howard will come storming back and we'll have a magical season. Pretty sure actual magic would have to be used, but you never know. If the Phillies fail to get things looking on the way up , probably within the next year, then Amaro should certainly pay the price. But to regard him as a guy who thinks he's got s'mores when all he has is toast is silly, I think. Every action of his shows he's planning for the future. Whether he'll do that well or not, I have no idea.

jerseyhoya wrote:Commies have five year plans, and they usually result in a lot of people starving and/or being executed

swishnicholson wrote:... and failing to sign a free agent n 2011.I'm not sure who he's talking about there.