gonna just guess that we're not even close to knowing everything about this supposed spring training scuffle.

I, like most Phillies fans, have forgiven Mitch. That being said, I don't want him anywhere near any current pitcher talking to them about mechanics.



Allright, see, when you release, you need to make sure your knee hits the ground like that, and then, because you'll be totally off balance, you need to make sure you steady yourself by placing your glove hand on the ground. Otherwise, you fall off the mound.

SK790 wrote:

danrosz wrote:Maybe the org does and Dubee doesn't. Guys get pointers from outside sources that turn out to be helpful all the time. I sense some insecurity on Dubee's part.

If the org did, they'd be paying Mitch and not Dubee. Don't see why this is so hard for you to understand.

Ding

Mitch Williams offering unsolicited pitching mechanics advice is the definition of chutzpah.

Somewhat related to the Dubee dustup, my dad, king of the Negadelphians, raised an interesting point this morning: the Phillies have gotten a ton of mileage out of marginal SP prospects the past seven years.

Kendrick, Happ, Worley, Kendrick again, these Pettibone starts, etc.

JFLNYC wrote:Mitch Williams offering unsolicited pitching mechanics advice is the definition of chutzpah.

It's not like Dubee tells him how to make his salsa

Mark Leiter's son struck out 20 last night for NJIT

So we got the wrong brother, but we can get the right son

danrosz wrote:Maybe the org does and Dubee doesn't. Guys get pointers from outside sources that turn out to be helpful all the time. I sense some insecurity on Dubee's part.

Didn't Mariano Rivera show the cutter to Doc at the All Star game a few years back?

Mariano Rivera and Mitch Williams. What doesn't belong in this picture?

Polar Bear Phan wrote:

throwinrocks wrote:

Phred wrote:I love Utley and all but I look over at the Orioles who have a shot in a division in which they don't usually have a shot and could really use a guy like Utley at 2nd base AND they also have a #$!&@ of prospects.

Orioles really only have Bundy and Gausman and then it gets thin. There's no way in hell they are trading either of them for 3 months of Utley.

Don't really buy this as the Giants gave up Zack Wheeler for two months of Carlos Beltran.

The only problem is that while Wheeler was/is a great prospect, he was much further away than Bundy and Gausman.

ek wrote:i think dubee does well with teaching the pitchers, etc. my qualm with him is his in-game bullpen decisions

I think he's a little too prone to trying to get guys (including starters) to finish an inning. Although to be fair, they've been pretty short on guys you'd feel comfortable bringing into a jam other than Madson

Dad also compared Delmon Young to Sarge. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it with the broadcast the next 30 years Trent

Grotewold wrote:Dad also compared Delmon Young to Sarge. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it with the broadcast the next 30 years Trent

They're both annoying black guys, so they have that in common.

Looking forward to West Coast Threads.

TenuredVulture wrote:Looking forward to West Coast Threads.

As am I, my sleep deprived vitriol is going to be good this year.

etched Chaos wrote:
Floppy never yields when he finally hates a Phil, it's typical prospect heartbreak syndrome.

to be totally fair, you dont know shit about shit

I would pay my own money to get Duncan to to replace Dubee.

FTN wrote:

etched Chaos wrote:
Floppy never yields when he finally hates a Phil, it's typical prospect heartbreak syndrome.

to be totally fair, you dont know shit about shit

Good job I don't give two fucks about your opinion then.

he replied within minutes from across the sea

The Dude wrote:he replied within minutes from across the sea

Can't leave a Gooner hanging, he might think he's won something.