I Don't Care About Walks - Phillies Random Thoughts

by **Soren** » Wed May 01, 2013 14:35:53

Cody Asche wrote: There's something special about a well made hot dog.

by **Grotewold** » Wed May 01, 2013 14:49:30

Monkeyboy wrote:I think it's completely absurd for Ruben to act like the organization has no responsibility for how players develop. If he really believes that, then why are we paying two hitting coaches on the big club, a bunch of minor league instructors, and about a zillion other support staff (not to mention all the professional development programs the Phillies have their minor leaguers do) designed to get the most out of the draft picks? I wish the interviewer would have asked that question.

All that's left is to replace the whirlpool engines with lawnmowers'

smh

by **smitty** » Wed May 01, 2013 16:05:33

Jeez. Are we back to taking things Amaro says seriously?

We developed a huge bunch of guys to the point we have been able to trade them for two ace pitchers and a bunch of other big league player who helped the team win 5 division titles in a row and Blahgitty, Blahgitty, blah.

So some reliefers haven't developed(yet--reliefers are a funny game anyway).

And Bastardo strikes out like 12 guys per nine so what's the problem there.

The only reliefer guy who was even highly regarded was Aumont. And who knows with him? I guess you could say Savery too and he's not quite a complete failure yet.

But Zagurski and Diekman and Rosenberger and all those guys are just guys. If a few of them turn into knockout reliefers cool. But again, reliefers are a funny game.

by **Polar Bear Phan** » Wed May 01, 2013 18:01:49

Doll Is Mine wrote:Cody Asche ‏@cody_smasche
There's something special about a well made hot dog.

Our future third baseman.

This was discussed in the burger vs. hot dog thread.

by **bury me** » Wed May 01, 2013 19:10:36

the thing with Diekman is that his stuff is absolutely incredible, but it seems he can't get any windup and release even a little similar from pitch to pitch. I think he was wasted, and I think the team is at fault for that. maybe Aumont too, in that respect so far

by **Bill McNeal** » Wed May 01, 2013 19:20:09

Utley gonna Ut

by **bury me** » Wed May 01, 2013 19:22:16

somehow he seems to be 25 again, when it looked like everything was over and his knees were dust and broken

by **karn** » Wed May 01, 2013 21:34:50

imo many of the teams with the greatest competitive advantages in baseball these days are the indians / cardinals type clubs that utilize a lot of regular roster turnover to stay ahead of opposing pitching by not being adequately scouted. do teams even have to scout the phillies? we're essentially a team full of vets on whom the league has books with years worth of data at their disposal to gameplan against and the rest are just so abysmally bad that it doesnt even matter. obviously talent means something but i genuinely think we'd have better competitive advantage at this point if asche/ruf/joseph/hernandez were playing over young/howard/ruiz/rollins

by **Trent Steele** » Wed May 01, 2013 22:13:54

5-14 against everyone but the Mets and Marlins

by **Ace Rothstein** » Wed May 01, 2013 22:19:19

Trent Steele wrote:5-14 against everyone but the Mets and Marlins

12-11 when not playing in Ohio

by **Barry Jive** » Wed May 01, 2013 22:22:56

Trent Steele wrote:5-14 against everyone but the Mets and Marlins

thank god MLB counts those games

by **Trent Steele** » Wed May 01, 2013 22:24:25

Barry Jive wrote:
Trent Steele wrote:5-14 against everyone but the Mets and Marlins

thank god MLB counts those games

unfortunately, they count when the Braves and Nats play them too.

by **bleh** » Wed May 01, 2013 22:49:14

Kinda unfair how the Braves and Nats have 3 crappy NL East teams to beat up on and we only get 2.

by **The Dude** » Wed May 01, 2013 23:14:39

we had 4 for a while

by **Monkeyboy** » Thu May 02, 2013 03:26:39

Grotewold wrote:
Monkeyboy wrote:I think it's completely absurd for Ruben to act like the organization has no responsibility for how players develop. If he really believes that, then why are we paying two hitting coaches on the big club, a bunch of minor league instructors, and about a zillion other support staff (not to mention all the professional development programs the Phillies have their minor leaguers do) designed to get the most out of the draft picks? I wish the interviewer would have asked that question.

All that's left is to replace the whirlpool engines with lawnmowers'

smh

I don't understand this comment.

He says they aren't responsible. If they aren't responsible, then they must have no effect on performance. If they do have some effect, then they are partly responsible. If they don't have any effect, then why are we paying them?

by **Monkeyboy** » Thu May 02, 2013 03:29:13

smitty wrote:Jeez. Are we back to taking things Amaro says seriously?

We developed a huge bunch of guys to the point we have been able to trade them for two ace pitchers and a bunch of other big league player who helped the team win 5 division titles in a row and Blahgitty, Blahgitty, blah.

So some reliefers haven't developed(yet--reliefers are a funny game anyway).

And Bastardo strikes out like 12 guys per nine so what's the problem there.

The only reliefer guy who was even highly regarded was Aumont. And who knows with him? I guess you could say Savery too and he's not quite a complete failure yet.

But Zagurski and Diekman and Rosenberger and all those guys are just guys. If a few of them turn into knockout reliefers cool. But again, reliefers are a funny game.

I agree with all of this.

by **wwry** » Thu May 02, 2013 04:51:53

bring 'im back

by **Slowhand** » Thu May 02, 2013 04:55:49

First he's got to do the Truffle Shuffle.

by **Monkeyboy** » Thu May 02, 2013 06:49:56

wwry wrote:bring 'im back

YES! Remember when he pulled his hamstring? I would have bet money that he didn't even have a hamstring to pull.

by **Bill McNeal** » Thu May 02, 2013 07:15:30

More like a HAM string amiright!

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