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by **smitty** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 01:47:20

Now that Hamels has won a game and Halladay is pitching like a big leaguer again the sky is the limit.

by **phorever** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 04:53:28

jerseyhoya wrote:1.5 back of Washington, 4 back of Atlanta

Seems like it should be much worse than that

given a win (or maybe two if the legend of pitcher-whispering is true) of choochlessness and another of doc being a couple of weeks behind schedule, not bad. many other ups and downs (myoung raking while revere flails, cole being a pile of hummus while lannan/pettibone hurl magic pixie dust, etc) pretty much cancel out).

still a .500 team so far. along with the return of chooch and h&h returning to being good, brown and howard beginning to improve is the main reason for me to have hope of the phils finishing well in the pennant race. for that to happen all these sparks of hope need to stay lit and the health fairy needs to protect all of the premium players. not great odds, but better than a couple of weeks ago when all the sparks were ashes.

by **Luzinski's Gut** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 07:03:28

Just keep hitting the ball. The offense is the key to this team.

by **Grotewold** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 09:57:44

Interesting article from Jeff Passan on the upcoming TV deal. Big thing is FOX badly wants another East Coast team and is eyeing the Phils. He sees us getting 4 to 5 billion or more

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/10-degrees ... 05935.html

by **Trent Steele** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:29:40

I sure hope he's right. That would be great. I get the luxury tax issue, but they will be more likely to exceed it and then pull back the following year with that kind of cash influx. More importantly, it should preclude a pullback to mid 1990s payroll levels.

Do international signings count against the luxury cap?

by **Wheels Tupay** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:36:57

We are such pimps we are #1 and #10 on that list.

by **Grotewold** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:38:21

Trent Steele wrote:I get the luxury tax issue, but they will be more likely to exceed it and then pull back the following year with that kind of cash influx.

It would be insane from long-term PR and business perspectives to not at least keep spending to the luxury tax limit, imo

by **smitty** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:47:29

A smart international signing would help this club in a big way. A guy like Cespedes or Iwakuma rather than a Dice K or Hideki Irabu is what I mean by smart.

by **RichmondPhilsFan** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:56:11

Trent Steele wrote:
Do international signings count against the luxury cap?

Not against the payroll cap. They have their own pool. Per Olney:

For international amateur signings from nations such as the Dominican Republic and Venezuela, a luxury tax will begin with the July 2012-June 2013 signing season on amounts over $2.9 million.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/7269300/major-league-baseball-players-owners-sign-new-labor-agreement

by **Bill McNeal** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:08:49

And fwiw, I read an article a couple of weeks ago and teams can trade their international signing allotment. It's insanely complicated I'll try to find the article.

by **Grotewold** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:10:02

You don't walk off the island, etc

by **Bill McNeal** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:12:38

http://www.baseballamerica.com/internat ... ace-works/

For the first time, teams will be allowed to trade portions of their international bonus pool allotments once the 2013-14 signing period begins on July 2.

Teams are allowed to trade for up to an additional 50 percent of their original signing bonus pool, so a team with a $2 million bonus pool would be allowed to trade for up to an extra $1 million in pool space.

It’s not quite that simple though.

Instead of one team just being able to take $1 million from its pool and trade that pool space to another club, teams have to trade slot values. Major League Baseball assigned 120 preliminary slot values, with four slots for each team. Teams add their four slot values together, plus another $700,000 as a base allocation, to get the value of their bonus pool. Teams can spend their pool allotment however they want. So while the slot values may be a precursor to an international draft as soon as 2014, the only practical application they have for this year is that trades must be done using the slot values.

Teams are not allowed to start trading slot values until July 2, which some believe is a way for MLB to try to cut down on deals before July 2 or at least make them more complicated, thereby limiting bonuses—though how effective that will be is debatable. Once July 2 is here, teams can make trades throughout the entire 2013-14 signing period, so the only “trade deadline” for making a deal is when the signing period ends on June 15, 2014 (the period between June 15 and July 1 is a “closed period” when teams are not allowed to sign players).

And then it goes on from there.

by **usctrojans31** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:13:20

The problem isn't how much the Phillies spend, rather it is HOW the Phillies spend. I remember years ago, FTN and I bemoaned the Phillies signing Rod Barajas instead of Angel Villalona. While Villalona didn't work out as he went all murdery, it still would have been a better investment. At least 10 people here wanted Sano, but the Phillies passed.

The obsession with veteran players is an organizational plague. Until that changes and the Phillies adapt, I don't care what the TV budget is, we will always be hard pressed to have sustainable success.

by **Grotewold** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:18:40

usctrojans31 wrote:The problem isn't how much the Phillies spend, rather it is HOW the Phillies spend.

It's both. Kyle Lohse and Josh Willingham won't light the world on fire but adding three or four guys like that to the 2002-2007 teams would have made a big difference, with a premium signing here and there. We all would have been doing cartwheels to double the payroll back then.

The problem is dynamic hitting. It costs a ton on the open market, and we don't appear to have any coming up from the farm anytime soon. I'm hoping to acquire some if the Phillies fall out of contention one of the next two years, and/or in trades for young pitching since that should remain a strength

by **smitty** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:29:51

Speaking of Cuban defectors, that Puig guy the Dodgers signed got himself arrested for reckless driving and speeding and having no insurance.

International signings are a funny game. They are all pretty risky, just like prospects. Puig might still end up being real good. But the Dodgers were concerned about him before this even happened.

They have to make a lot of adjustments to professional baseball in the States and to a new culture and a bunch of other stuff. A lot of international guys fall by the wayside.

Still, I'd like to see the Phils take a chance here once In a while on a big league ready type.

by **Grotewold** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:30:40

smitty wrote:They have to make a lot of adjustments to professional baseball in the States and to a new culture and a bunch of other stuff. A lot of international guys fall by the wayside.

That reminds me, I found the film "Sugar" pretty interesting

by **smitty** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:35:11

Grotewold wrote:
smitty wrote:They have to make a lot of adjustments to professional baseball in the States and to a new culture and a bunch of other stuff. A lot of international guys fall by the wayside.

That reminds me, I found the film "Sugar" pretty interesting

Outstanding. Really good portrayal of what I'm referring to.

by **FTN** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:52:26

value for money, the phillies are in the top 1/3 of all major league teams in latin america.

by **mcare89** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 13:18:38

Grotewold wrote:Interesting article from Jeff Passan on the upcoming TV deal. Big thing is FOX badly wants another East Coast team and is eyeing the Phils. He sees us getting 4 to 5 billion or more

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/10-degrees ... 05935.html

This is exactly what I dreamed of. They'll get huge money now just because there's no way Comcast wants Fox sniffing around in their backyard. It's a win-win. Either Comcast will pay up, or Fox will come in and comically outbid them because that's what Fox does.

by **usctrojans31** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 13:28:39

smitty wrote:Speaking of Cuban defectors, that Puig guy the Dodgers signed got himself arrested for reckless driving and speeding and having no insurance.

International signings are a funny game. They are all pretty risky, just like prospects.

I miss Ugeth Urbina.

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