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Re: Phillies Random Thoughts RT: Please Keep Winning

Postby Woody » Wed Sep 19, 2012 22:58:09

Who has the most homeruns since the whatever Jew holiday started?
you sure do seem to have a lot of time on your hands to be on this forum? Do you have a job? Are you a shut-in?

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Re: Phillies Random Thoughts RT: Please Keep Winning

Postby TheFrank » Thu Sep 20, 2012 08:23:59

Did Cataldi really say this morning that Utley has quit on the season?
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Re: Phillies Random Thoughts RT: Please Keep Winning

Postby TheFrank » Thu Sep 20, 2012 08:37:20

ek wrote:didn't hear. but i wonder what his basis for that argument was. he did have a great ab last night in the 9th. doesn't sound like quitting to me

Twitter says he said something about Utley forgetting the count.
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Re: Phillies Random Thoughts RT: Please Keep Winning

Postby Napalm » Thu Sep 20, 2012 08:42:47

it makes perfect sense when you remember cataldi is the one spewing the garbage

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Re: Phillies Random Thoughts RT: Please Keep Winning

Postby The B1G Piece » Thu Sep 20, 2012 08:47:07

Third most valuable Phillies position player in 70 games.

Yimmy has the highest WAR among all SS. But teh popups.

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Re: Phillies Random Thoughts RT: Please Keep Winning

Postby my cousin mose » Thu Sep 20, 2012 08:53:00

TheFrank wrote:
ek wrote:didn't hear. but i wonder what his basis for that argument was. he did have a great ab last night in the 9th. doesn't sound like quitting to me

Twitter says he said something about Utley forgetting the count.

jesus fucking christ. DAVIDSON forgot the count
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Re: Phillies Random Thoughts RT: Please Keep Winning

Postby my cousin mose » Thu Sep 20, 2012 08:53:24

misanthropy... growing...
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Re: Phillies Random Thoughts RT: Please Keep Winning

Postby Bucky » Thu Sep 20, 2012 09:02:01

my cousin mose wrote:
TheFrank wrote:
ek wrote:didn't hear. but i wonder what his basis for that argument was. he did have a great ab last night in the 9th. doesn't sound like quitting to me

Twitter says he said something about Utley forgetting the count.

jesus #$!&@ christ. DAVIDSON forgot the count



I hate Bob Davidson as much as anybody, but his reaction there was perfectly understandable. As an umpire, you expect the hitter to know when he gets his fourth ball (/PilP). When the hitter doesn't go to first, you then say to yourself "self, well, maybe I got this count wrong. Let me go check with my base umpires before I tell this guy to go to first".

(Obviously this is at higher skill levels and doesn't apply to pee-wee games and less-skilled leagues, where the ump usually always has to tell the batter to go to first).

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Re: Phillies Random Thoughts RT: Please Keep Winning

Postby my cousin mose » Thu Sep 20, 2012 09:17:43

don't they have those clicker things?

at any rate, i just can't believe anyone would insinuate utley's quit on the team
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Re: Phillies Random Thoughts RT: Please Keep Winning

Postby pacino » Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:39:39

i love jimmy rollins...just kinda wish we had a SS we could plug in the first two months of the year until we just put him in in june and let him rake
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Re: Phillies Random Thoughts RT: Please Keep Winning

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:26:15

TheFrank wrote:
ek wrote:didn't hear. but i wonder what his basis for that argument was. he did have a great ab last night in the 9th. doesn't sound like quitting to me

Twitter says he said something about Utley forgetting the count.

It was an 8-pitch AB. It happens.

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Re: Phillies Random Thoughts RT: Please Keep Winning

Postby SK790 » Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:31:51

i really hope jimmy forgets the count sometime within the next week just to read moronic overreactions.
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Re: Phillies Random Thoughts RT: Please Keep Winning

Postby Doll Is Mine » Thu Sep 20, 2012 15:40:14

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Re: Phillies Random Thoughts RT: Please Keep Winning

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Re: Phillies Random Thoughts RT: Please Keep Winning

Postby joe table » Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:29:29

Dom now has a 10.6% BB rate and a 16.5% K rate. ISO creeping up to .153. He has impressed me offensively, I think he has the best hitting approach on the team other than Utley and Chooch. Didn't look at the splits but he looks very comfortable facing lefties too (as well as hitting with 2 strikes), spits on those sliders. I think he can tap into his raw power more as well if just picks his spots and gets more aggressive in hitters counts

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Re: Phillies Random Thoughts RT: Please Keep Winning

Postby swishnicholson » Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:58:55

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Re: Phillies Random Thoughts RT: Please Keep Winning

Postby smitty » Fri Sep 21, 2012 14:36:33

joe table wrote:Dom now has a 10.6% BB rate and a 16.5% K rate. ISO creeping up to .153. He has impressed me offensively, I think he has the best hitting approach on the team other than Utley and Chooch. Didn't look at the splits but he looks very comfortable facing lefties too (as well as hitting with 2 strikes), spits on those sliders. I think he can tap into his raw power more as well if just picks his spots and gets more aggressive in hitters counts


Stats are ugly vs. lefties but it's only in 41 PAs. .171 BA with a .607 OPS.

However, in games started by lefties, he has an .812 OPS. He must feast on RH reliefers.

His stats after getting two strikes are pretty ugly too although he will draw some walks.

Most guys have bad two strike stats so I'm thinking he will improve there as he does LOOK good hitting with two strikes.

I like his chances for being pretty good next season. Definitely feel bad for him.
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Re: Phillies Random Thoughts RT: Please Keep Winning

Postby Roger Dorn » Fri Sep 21, 2012 14:37:08

Thanks for embedding the video, wasn't working for me. You the man.
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Re: Phillies Random Thoughts RT: Please Keep Winning

Postby joe table » Fri Sep 21, 2012 16:45:19

smitty wrote:
joe table wrote:Dom now has a 10.6% BB rate and a 16.5% K rate. ISO creeping up to .153. He has impressed me offensively, I think he has the best hitting approach on the team other than Utley and Chooch. Didn't look at the splits but he looks very comfortable facing lefties too (as well as hitting with 2 strikes), spits on those sliders. I think he can tap into his raw power more as well if just picks his spots and gets more aggressive in hitters counts


Stats are Utley vs. lefties but it's only in 41 PAs. .171 BA with a .607 OPS.

However, in games started by lefties, he has an .812 OPS. He must feast on RH reliefers.

His stats after getting two strikes are pretty ugly too although he will draw some walks.

Most guys have bad two strike stats so I'm thinking he will improve there as he does LOOK good hitting with two strikes.

I like his chances for being pretty good next season. Definitely feel bad for him.


Yeah those lefty splits are worse than I'd thought they be. Strangely enough the plate discipline stats are even better vs lefties though (14.6 BB%, 14.6 K%) so that bodes well. And maybe that's where I get the feeling that he looks okay vs them. I feel like he's had multiple ABs this year vs lefties where he's worked long counts and then hit hard ground balls right at the SS for a 6-4-3...good approach, bad result

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Re: Phillies Random Thoughts RT: Please Keep Winning

Postby joe table » Fri Sep 21, 2012 17:00:16

Pretty good writeup from Dave Cameron about Jim's bizarre year

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.ph ... nt-season/

That looks like it’s pretty fortunate for the Phillies, because his September has been even better than his June. He’s already his seven home runs this month, and he’s slugging a ridiculous .681 over the team’s last 17 games. At +1.5 WAR, he’s been baseball’s best position player this month – yes, even better than the legendary Miguel Cabrera.

Rollins has played 40 games in June and September, which accounts for just 30% of his season total. In those two months, he’s accumulated +3.2 WAR, which is 65% of his total for the year. And, while some normal variation in performance over these kinds of arbitrary endpoints is expected, you don’t see these kinds of awful-bad-great-bad-okay-amazing kinds of swings too often.

Overall, the total package for the Phillies has been quite valuable, and there’s a pretty good case to be made that he’s been baseball’s best overall shortstop this year. It’s been a roller coaster of a ride, however, beginning with a few months where Rollins looked like a shell of his former self. However, for the last four months, he’s been showing better power than he has at any point since his MVP season of 2007, and even with the increase in strikeouts, Rollins is still a very productive player. While he turns 34 in November and is probably headed for some decline in the next few years, it certainly isn’t here yet. As long as he keeps driving the ball and playing quality defense at a premium position, he’ll continue to be among the league’s best players.

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