Is there a Random Baseball Thoughts Thread?

by **The Dude** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 18:17:00

thought it was only the two crappy wild cards playing the one game

by **CalvinBall** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 18:18:54

it is. then one of those crappy teams gets to open a series at home. and then play another game at home after that.

by **BuddyGroom** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 18:20:01

The Dude wrote:thought it was only the two crappy wild cards playing the one game

It is, but the wildcard is still earned over 162 games. I used to think the best-of-five LCS was unfair. A one-gamer after spending six months making the postseason? I think that's cruel and unusual punishment.

by **The Dude** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 18:23:27

yeah, but the wild card is a relatively new thing too, so idk. i hate the expansion, but i'm glad it's not a full round of playoffs for teams that wouldn't have been there pretty recently. i'm glad it's one and done and the real playoffs start like it's normal

by **JFLNYC** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 18:39:44

TheDude24 wrote:What the heck are travel days? They don't have them in the regular season. Why is everyone all of the sudden a baby on October? Best of 5 series? Play 5 straight days.

The "travel" days are actually there so that the networks can get all the games on TV with as little overlap as possible.

by **The Dude** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 18:41:35

your avatar is perfect for that response

by **Bill McNeal** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 19:17:20

Would you be better off getting the 2 seed this year? That way you get to open the best of 5 lds at home for sure, then take your chances with the lcs?

by **joe table** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 19:20:56

I think I'm the only one who likes this, mainly because 1) I'm already at peace with the playoffs being a crapshoot, so more variance is tolerable and 2) were spoiled now but I guess I can't shake the memories of those mid-2000s Phils teams. I remember thinking how awesome it would be to just get once

by **philliesphhan** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 20:25:45

Bill McNeal wrote:Would you be better off getting the 2 seed this year? That way you get to open the best of 5 lds at home for sure, then take your chances with the lcs?

Don't 2 seeds also start on the road?

by **Bill McNeal** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 20:43:46

philliesphhan wrote:
Bill McNeal wrote:Would you be better off getting the 2 seed this year? That way you get to open the best of 5 lds at home for sure, then take your chances with the lcs?

Don't 2 seeds also start on the road?

I don't know, I got confused reading that mess up thread. Probably.

by **Barry Jive** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 21:17:26

The 2-3 format is dumb but whatever. The only real disadvantage is that it makes a sweep less likely. The chances of winning the series are the the same and the advantages gained from being the 1-seed trump the scheduling

Plus, great teams can win anywhere, as we know

by **Bucky** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 22:35:21

Bill McNeal wrote:
philliesphhan wrote:
Bill McNeal wrote:Would you be better off getting the 2 seed this year? That way you get to open the best of 5 lds at home for sure, then take your chances with the lcs?

Don't 2 seeds also start on the road?

I don't know, I got confused reading that mess up thread. Probably.

One LDS in each league begins -- the series matching the No. 2 seed versus the No. 3 seed (i.e., the matchup that doesn't involve the wild-card teams). The No. 3 seed would play the first two games at home.

by **bleh** » Sat Mar 03, 2012 03:23:56

It could benefit the Phillies since they have a deeper rotation. Carpenter would've had to go on only 3 days rest last year in game 5.

It also means only the higher ranked team can clinch at home.

by **TheDude24** » Sat Mar 03, 2012 14:45:25

We all know by now that momentum shifts during playoff series' don't always have anything to do with whether the game is at home or away.

by **BigEd76** » Sat Mar 03, 2012 14:51:44

The minor league playoffs use the 2-3 format to save on travel, and it seems like a lot of the lower seeds end up winning, although you do have to account for call-ups and first-half division champs that suck in the 2nd half.

2011 minor league playoffs (team with HFA listed first)

by **Rockinghorse** » Sat Mar 03, 2012 19:53:41

Braves got 1-hit by Doug Fister (2 ip) and the Tigers, a single by Jordan Parraz (Phils draftee, never signed) in the 8th inning off Bootcheck.

Also the Red Sox beat Northeastern 25-0 behind two Cody Ross bombs.

by **lethal** » Sat Mar 03, 2012 19:57:53

bleh wrote:It could benefit the Phillies since they have a deeper rotation. Carpenter would've had to go on only 3 days rest last year in game 5.

It also means only the higher ranked team can clinch at home.

It wouldn't have affected when Carpenter pitched, but it would've affected who their game 1 starter would be (we won anyway) and it might've used up their bullpen more (which might've helped us in game 2).

That and they would have a 50/50 chance of losing and we would've played the Braves instead.

I support the expanded playoff (you're not the only one, joe). Next year they'll fix the 2-3 format in the DS.

by **Monkeyboy** » Sat Mar 03, 2012 20:32:01

I don't mind the extra game going forward. In fact, I like it. One more team gets involved and it doesn't change the fact that a WC team will play the top division winner in the 1st full round. So really, it adds something without messing with the longer series. My only beef is the 2-3 thing this year. I see no reason that all the parties involved couldn't work it out with scheduling. It seems to me that they are just trying to save money and are using this as an excuse. It can't be that hard to make a few scheduling changes this far in advance. We put a damn man on the moon for pete's sake. :spam:

by **PTOITWCFTPP** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:05:20

GrizzledVeteran wrote:That's just insane. Higher-seeded teams should get the first home games as a reward for winning more games.

Less travel. Interesting. If MLB had balls, they'd go with a 1-4 format. That's how you really reward top teams.

It's kinda awesome that the "home team" in this scenario only has to beat Roy Halladay and Cliff Lee before going on the road.

by **PhillyFrank5391** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:55:33

At first I hated this, but the idea has grown on me. I like the fact that it's more important to win your division than ever.. at the same time I liked the playoff system the way it was. I guess we'll have to go down the road and see how it all plays out, but I don't hate this idea nearly as much as I did when it first came about.

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