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by **Soren** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 15:52:16

Yea...him and Webb

Website · by **Wolfgang622** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 15:53:22

CFP wrote:
"This is probably it. I'm not even going to look around or take any offers. It's time to walk away and it's been a good run."
-Matt Stairs

Here's to you, Matt Stairs.

And I can't find a linkable video of it, but let's not forget Harry's last HR call - on a shot by Stairs in Colorado in April of 2009.

Three cheers for Matt Stairs - for helping to make all of our dreams come true.

Website · by **Wolfgang622** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 15:56:15

phdave wrote:Some details about the case against the man accused of beating the Giants fan at Dodger Stadium here.

This part was surprising:

Matthew Lee, one of the men with Stow who was also attacked, was going to be a witness but died over the weekend from an allergic reaction after eating a peanut, police commander Andy Smith said.

No cause of death has been determined, according to the Los Angeles Times.

Also, poorly written.

No cause of death has been determined

died over the weekend from an allergic reaction after eating a peanut

by **TheFrank** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 16:20:45

2nd best Jerry Remy call behind this:

by **Ace Rothstein** » Wed Aug 03, 2011 16:22:09

TheFrank wrote:2nd best Jerry Remy call behind "Man getting hit in face with pizza"

that was classic

by **The Marty Show** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:14:09

mozartpc27 wrote:...
And I can't find a linkable video of it, but let's not forget Harry's last HR call - on a shot by Stairs in Colorado in April of 2009....

Here

by **Grotewold** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:24:32

Whoah -- Jason Kipnis one-upped Jeff Grotewold. Thinking of a screen name change

by **Grotewold** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 15:41:17

Former baseball okay Doug DeCinces charged with insider trading

by **Grotewold** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 16:02:58

Am I reading this right that Fangraphs has Carlos Lee as the top defensive NL outfielder?

by **Soren** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 16:04:47

Grotewold wrote:Am I reading this right that Fangraphs has Carlos Lee as the top defensive NL outfielder?

lol 9 runs above average

by **JUburton** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 16:08:12

Probably my biggest issue with WAR...there's always the caveat of using only one season of UZR data, but I assume WAR uses one or even less.

by **The B1G Piece** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 16:20:35

Doug DiCinces, above average player, played 15 seasons, mostly for the Orioles and Angels:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/decindo01.shtml

Dun Goofed.

http://www.sec.gov/news/press/2011/2011-161.htm

by **Trent Steele** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 16:33:26

Grotewold wrote:Am I reading this right that Fangraphs has Carlos Lee as the top defensive NL outfielder?

What a complete joke. How can anyone take this things seriously?

by **jamiethekiller** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 16:37:22

Trent Steele wrote:
Grotewold wrote:Am I reading this right that Fangraphs has Carlos Lee as the top defensive NL outfielder?

What a complete joke. How can anyone take this things seriously?

thats what happens when you play in the smallest LF in baseball. its a homerun or a flyball you can catch.

by **Trent Steele** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 16:49:04

jamiethekiller wrote:
Trent Steele wrote:
Grotewold wrote:Am I reading this right that Fangraphs has Carlos Lee as the top defensive NL outfielder?

What a complete joke. How can anyone take this things seriously?

thats what happens when you play in the smallest LF in baseball. its a homerun or a flyball you can catch.

He was -27 the last two years in the same park. He now weighs 340 lbs. So, obviously, it makes sense that he's now an elite OF

by **phdave** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 18:08:32

If I am reading this correctly, Bourn is - for UZR? Was he getting blamed for Lee's bad fielding and Lee is taking credit for Bourn? (I have no idea how UZR is calculated.)

by **Houshphandzadeh** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 18:23:43

so here's a question that is probably stupid: I feel like almost every time advanced defensive stats come up, at least a few people question or qualify, if not just dismiss them, but isn't WAR for a position player almost half defensive statistics? or, if not half, a decent chunk? yet, I feel people aren't timid about throwing WAR around.

by **JUburton** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 18:25:43

Houshphandzadeh wrote:so here's a question that is probably stupid: I feel like almost every time advanced defensive stats come up, at least a few people question or qualify, if not just dismiss them, but isn't WAR for a position player almost half defensive statistics? or, if not half, a decent chunk? yet, I feel people aren't timid about throwing WAR around.

Which is why WAR shouldn't be the end all, be all statistic. I have weird feeling front offices laugh at WAR and probably most of the value stats the mainstream uses. I'd love to see what some teams out there from guys paid a ton of money to analyze this stuff.

by **Barry Jive** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 19:15:29

They're automatically balanced, not really evenly. I think they found a defensive run saved was about 1/3 as important as an offensive run, not sure on the specifics. So anyway, Carlos Lee's defensive stats don't really make much difference in WAR.

On top of that, even the best defensive stats require a three-year sample to be legitimate. If you're looking at one year you're doing it wrong.

by **jamiethekiller** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 19:27:56

Barry Jive wrote:They're automatically balanced, not really evenly. I think they found a defensive run saved was about 1/3 as important as an offensive run, not sure on the specifics. So anyway, Carlos Lee's defensive stats don't really make much difference in WAR.

On top of that, even the best defensive stats require a three-year sample to be legitimate. If you're looking at one year you're doing it wrong.

War is only using 1 year though. I I think a + 7 would be .7 war though. Then he gets docked for playing left like 10 runs

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