DSP's TV Thread (with J.E. Magee) [OT]

by **jemagee** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 23:01:42

dsp wrote:And that is it. Aaron Sorkin's jumbled mess of a show, Studio 60, is done. What could have been, what could have been. Oh well, Jemagee will always buy the dvd to savor all the walk and talks and witty dialouge he can get.

3 times as many people watch CSI:Miami than watch studio 60 on a regular basis...that just tells me all I need to know about why the democratic process needs to be rexamined and some sort of qualifying exam assessed before you can vote.

by **MarkdlV** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 23:05:13

I was very disappointed in Jericho. It is gone for two months and comes back with a essentially a filler episode. Hopefully this is not a sign of things to come.

by **jemagee** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 00:31:04

Well - halway through - not fond of jakes story -but i find the hawkins story interesting, so far at least.

by **lethal** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 00:52:20

Laexile wrote:Sylar can freeze people and has Charlie's super memory. Eden killed herself before Sylar could get her power. Sylar has some invulverability to survive the fall in Odessa and Bennet's bullets. He has moved fast. Super speed? time-bending? teleportation? invisibility? According to the FBI agent, he's killed more than once.

I think we'll learn Bennet is no villain and Lindeman might not be either. The Haitan talked about needing Claire for what was coming. Bennet is tagging heroes for some reason. A future battle? He's been doing it a while too, since they've encountered Claude some time before. Hiro does get the sword (and unaccented English). Peter does get a scar.

Charlie died a natural death after Hiro went back in time to try to stop Sylar from killing here. He shouldn't have the super memory.

He had some sort of super strength to kill that family (first episode where we met Parkman) in the way that he did. Probably needed it to kill the mechanic and leave her in the position that he did.

I think he has Eden's power because he telekinetically pointed the gun at her and shot her. He likely preserved her brain to get the power since he said he's desired it for some time (since feeling it while hanging out in Dr. Suresh the elder's NYC apartment).

by **Laexile** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 01:11:44

I don't think it was clear that Charlie died a natural death. Maybe I missed something. I'm nearly certain that Eden shot herself to destroy her brain and preven Sylar from getting that power. He hasn't exhibited it yet.

by **dsp** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 01:17:30

your dorking up my tv thread. go read comic books you stupid nerds.

by **lethal** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 01:25:22

Laexile wrote:I don't think it was clear that Charlie died a natural death. Maybe I missed something. I'm nearly certain that Eden shot herself to destroy her brain and preven Sylar from getting that power. He hasn't exhibited it yet.

Hiro told Ando that Charlie died due to the brain condition. What's unclear about that?

Sylar's pursuaded a couple people so far on his trip, Mohinder to allow "Zane" to accompany him and the mechanic to let them come back the next day. That could've been Eden's power or it could've not been. That's unclear.

Sylar also has some sort of power to levitate or at least walk silently because the mechanic said she didn't hear him approach and Sylar said that he didn't walk or make any noise.

by **Laexile** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 03:36:06

I guess I missed what Hiro told Ando. When Eden used her ability, she used a deep voice that could be discerned from her usual voice. Sylar hasn't done that. The things you've mentioned don't seem like something that needs a lot of convincing.

by **lethal** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 08:53:35

I'll concede that Eden killed herself since it is implied in the graphic novel associated with that episode, evidence that you should have brought forth to support your contention in the first place. Don't let it happen again.

by **21McBride** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 09:18:15

From wikipedia

After she [Charlie] revealed to Hiro that she had recently developed a near perfect ability to quickly memorize any information, Sylar murders her in the diner's storeroom, removing her brain in the same manner as Sylar's other victims.

by **jemagee** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:02:23

From what I recall, Charlie died in a way different than sylars victims, her brain was not exposed, her skull was not opened.

Hiro went back six months to save her, but she died anyway, that's not sylar likely.

by **dsp** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 13:22:05

ok nerds enough heroes talk.

suck on this:

the front runner to take over conans 1230 show when he goes to 1130? none other than jimmy fallon.

by **PSUPhilliesPhan** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 15:13:14

MarkdlV wrote:I was very disappointed in Jericho. It is gone for two months and comes back with a essentially a filler episode. Hopefully this is not a sign of things to come.

I was originally dissapointed in it being a 8 weeks earlier kind of episode but I enjoyed it for the most part, we definitely learned a lot more about Hawkins. The note he had said to go to Columbus, Ohio. Did he not deliver the bomb there because of what happened to girl that was in his apartment? Or was he not ever planning on delivering it there?

by **jemagee** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 16:22:52

I believe he never planned on delivering the bomb after he picked up his family...i don't think he would have had the time to drop in columbus and make it to jericho.

What i wonder is where DID he drop his bomb?

by **PSUPhilliesPhan** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 18:30:55

jemagee wrote:I believe he never planned on delivering the bomb after he picked up his family...i don't think he would have had the time to drop in columbus and make it to jericho.

What i wonder is where DID he drop his bomb?

I think that was what he moved from the storage place to his house during the fallout rain. He hid it in his basement behind concrete.

by **jemagee** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 18:37:09

Huh....i kind of figured the bombs were 'set' already to go off so chickening out would be less of an option..i didn't think they'd have the drivers set the timers on the bombs, but just have them detonate.

by **Squire** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 18:38:45

I'm a huge Jericho fan. I firmly believe that there is simply no way that Hawkins will end up as a bad guy in all of this. I think the story will be that Hawkins infiltrated the terrorist group but was powerless to stop the rest of the detonations or something to that effect. Whether the girl he was with was a terrorist (and he was just faking the relationship to infiltrate the network) or a co-infiltrator like him also remains to be seen. I will be stunned, stunned if Hawkins turns out to be anything other than a good guy in all of this.

SQUIRE

by **jemagee** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 18:45:23

so, he was infiltrating, but somehow forgot to warn his superiors that some sort of mass destruction weapon assault was planned to go off in less than 24 hours...and the restraining order and way he treated his family? Sorry...he may be an 'alright' guy now, but he was one of the loons as far as i'm concerned.

I just wonder, where did they get their funding, who was behind it all, was it an internal coup or external?

by **Squire** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 18:57:34

jemagee wrote:so, he was infiltrating, but somehow forgot to warn his superiors that some sort of mass destruction weapon assault was planned to go off in less than 24 hours...and the restraining order and way he treated his family? Sorry...he may be an 'alright' guy now, but he was one of the loons as far as i'm concerned.

I just wonder, where did they get their funding, who was behind it all, was it an internal coup or external?

Fair points. There are definitely some gaps that are going to be required to fill for Hawkins to have been a good guy all along. Namely, there's going to have to be some sort of "there was no way to stop it" leap of faith which perhaps Jericho will never make. His issues with his family could have been manufactured by himself so that they would stay away from him when he was doing dangerous stuff. It appeared to me that he let the cops live by merely knocking them out rather than executing them. We'll see, perhaps its just wishful thinking on my part.

by **PSUPhilliesPhan** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 19:09:22

Squire wrote:I'm a huge Jericho fan. I firmly believe that there is simply no way that Hawkins will end up as a bad guy in all of this. I think the story will be that Hawkins infiltrated the terrorist group but was powerless to stop the rest of the detonations or something to that effect. Whether the girl he was with was a terrorist (and he was just faking the relationship to infiltrate the network) or a co-infiltrator like him also remains to be seen. I will be stunned, stunned if Hawkins turns out to be anything other than a good guy in all of this.

SQUIRE

I agree with this, to some extent. I think he definitely was not part of the group that detonated the bombs because whoever he has been talking to on the computer had mentioned nothing about him not dropping the bomb in Columbus and until the last episode the communication was not hostile.

Also, FWIW, next month CBS will decide whether to pick it up for a second season. Anyone know how the ratings are?

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