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Postby dsp » Fri Jan 12, 2007 03:32:25

Agreed. Very good episode. Earl was also on top of its game, it has been for the past few episodes after lagging a lot earlier in the year.

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Postby Disco Stu » Fri Jan 12, 2007 05:01:15

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Houshphandzadeh wrote:Could they played it unedited if they waited until after 10 and put a proper disclaimer up?


Certain words are still 'unacceptable' on tv regardless of time...and certain scenes of sexuality are unacceptable as well.

Violence on the other hand, well jeez man, that's all ok, let me tell ya


I dunno about that. Didn't ESPN air like 1000 cuss words with that Bobby Knight story. And MTV has shown boobies in some 90s punk video (forgot who...).
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Postby R.J. MacReady » Fri Jan 12, 2007 05:23:31

Disco Stu wrote:
jemagee wrote:
Houshphandzadeh wrote:Could they played it unedited if they waited until after 10 and put a proper disclaimer up?


Certain words are still 'unacceptable' on tv regardless of time...and certain scenes of sexuality are unacceptable as well.

Violence on the other hand, well jeez man, that's all ok, let me tell ya


I dunno about that. Didn't ESPN air like 1000 cuss words with that Bobby Knight story. And MTV has shown boobies in some 90s punk video (forgot who...).


That was Prodigy's Smack My Bitch Up video.

Comedy Central airs unedited language on Saturday late nights. Many of the roasts and movies like the South Park Movie, Not Another Teen Movie, and a few others have been shown with all the bad language included.

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Postby Disco Stu » Fri Jan 12, 2007 05:51:44

R.J. MacReady wrote:
Disco Stu wrote:
jemagee wrote:
Houshphandzadeh wrote:Could they played it unedited if they waited until after 10 and put a proper disclaimer up?


Certain words are still 'unacceptable' on tv regardless of time...and certain scenes of sexuality are unacceptable as well.

Violence on the other hand, well jeez man, that's all ok, let me tell ya


I dunno about that. Didn't ESPN air like 1000 cuss words with that Bobby Knight story. And MTV has shown boobies in some 90s punk video (forgot who...).


That was Prodigy's Smack My Bitch Up video.

Comedy Central airs unedited language on Saturday late nights. Many of the roasts and movies like the South Park Movie, Not Another Teen Movie, and a few others have been shown with all the bad language included.


Yeah, good call. I was going to google it, but figured someone would answer.
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Postby Bill McNeal » Fri Jan 12, 2007 09:25:02

The FCC only regulates "over the air channels" which are the stations you can receive via antenna. All of the other channels, comedy central, MTV, ESPN, TBS etc. are not subject to FCC rule, they can show whatever they want. The reason the stations hold themselves to certain limits are a) advertising, they don't want to air racy content and have sponsors drop off b)The cable companies, if you show racy content or language parents will complain to their cable companies and want the channel removed. So any cable channel could show The Wire, or Sex and the City completely uncut (provided HBO would allow it in the syndication deal) they just choose not to.

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Postby jemagee » Sat Jan 13, 2007 00:03:58

I'm begging Sci-Fi Channel and Stephenson not to screw this up

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Postby R.J. MacReady » Sat Jan 13, 2007 01:03:26

jemagee wrote:I'm begging Sci-Fi Channel and Stephenson not to screw this up

Diamond Age

Based on Neal Stephenson's best-selling novel The Diamond Age: Or a Young Lady's Illustrated Primer, this six-hour miniseries is executive produced by George Clooney and Grant Heslov of Smokehouse Productions. A prominent member of a conservative futuristic society grows concerned that the culture stifles creativity, and commissions a controversial interactive book for his daughter, which serves as her guide through a surreal alternate world. When the primer's provocative technology, which adapts to the reader's responses, falls into the hands of a young innocent, the girl's life is accidentally reprogrammed with dangerous results. Neal Stephenson will adapt his own novel for this project, the first time the Hugo and Nebula winning author has written for the small screen.


Sadly Sci Fi movies have generally sucked hard in the last three or so years. Well, at least their horror movies have sucked really bad. I taped The Lost Room with Peter Krause but haven't watched it yet. Did you or anybody else catch this and was it any good? I've seen a list of upcoming projects for Sci Fi (some being more on the Sci fi side rather than horror) and they sound pretty dreadful. It's a shame as the channel is a great idea just has some bad decisions/execution at times.

I missed The Knights of Prosperity episode this week. Is it anywhere on the net to watch? I'm at work but will check Youtube sometime this weekend when I'm home to see if it's on there. I can only get dial up interenet service at work which sucks :?

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Postby PSUPhilliesPhan » Sat Jan 13, 2007 12:31:29

I have not been more excited for a weekend of TV in a while:

Eagles playoff game, other NFL playoff games, 24 and Rome season premieres, wow! Gotta DVR Rome then watch it after 24.

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Postby dsp » Sat Jan 13, 2007 15:04:25

all im gonna say about the first 4 hours of 24 is that there is a fight between kumar and rube baker. that alone should be awsome.

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Postby BDawk » Sat Jan 13, 2007 15:31:43

dsp wrote:all im gonna say about the first 4 hours of 24 is that there is a fight between kumar and rube baker. that alone should be awsome.

That was pretty bad ass

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Postby dsp » Sat Jan 13, 2007 15:55:46

yea that entire plot was a little ridiculous. i mean, one the peoples was badly injured and (s)he still was able to do that to the other 3 people and make them do that thing with the stuff? come on...

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Postby jemagee » Sat Jan 13, 2007 17:58:59

Unsubstantiated rumors floating around from various sources that Battlestar will not get a fourth season.

A 'major' cast name will disappear from the opening credits according to Ronald Moore at the winter press tour - most people seem to think it'll be starbuck (I don't buy it because of her geek sex appeal)

They have plans to make a direct to DVD movie - but that probably wouldn't happen if there was no fourth season - probably no caprica spinoff either...

3rd season finale (per moore) will probably be as 'direction changing' as the second season finale
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Postby pacino » Sat Jan 13, 2007 18:12:40

How could it not get a 4th season?
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Postby jemagee » Sat Jan 13, 2007 18:15:30

pacino wrote:How could it not get a 4th season?


Declining ratings on the sci-fi channel...there are some rumblings out there that maybe Sci-Fi feels it's too 'dark/depressing' to keep going...combined with increased costs, production and possibly cast...the longer a show goes, the more the cast costs.

Nothing is confirmed, and sci-fi publicly denies the rumors, but they are out there...
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Postby dajafi » Sat Jan 13, 2007 18:20:51

jemagee wrote:
pacino wrote:How could it not get a 4th season?


Declining ratings on the sci-fi channel...there are some rumblings out there that maybe Sci-Fi feels it's too 'dark/depressing' to keep going...combined with increased costs, production and possibly cast...the longer a show goes, the more the cast costs.

Nothing is confirmed, and sci-fi publicly denies the rumors, but they are out there...


Here's a link to some of what jem mentions. I read the first half, but not the interview with Moore and Eick; I'd like to believe that some of what turned me off later in the first half of season three was knowing too much about what was going to happen, so I'm trying not to spoil myself.

I'd like to see them go to a fourth season, and then wrap it up. It's not a premise that you can play out forever, and as much as I loved the New Caprica storyline and episode arc, I actually thought that it made the subsequent ones look semi-lame by comparison.

Still the best show of the last ten years.

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Postby jemagee » Sat Jan 13, 2007 18:35:06

ESPN did something good yesterday, quite frankly has been quite cancelled
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Postby dsp » Sun Jan 14, 2007 16:58:24

Dancing with the Stars will go mondays (probably 8pm) and tuesdays(probably 9pm) beginning march 19. This is good for Friday Night Lights, it will really have a chance to grow over the next few months.

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Postby VoxOrion » Sun Jan 14, 2007 18:16:07

I ache to think of life without BSG, but this past half season was really poor, in my opinion - ditto for the finale (which seemed way too similar to the mid-season finale of season two - I can easily imagine how it will resolve itself). I hope they have the time and ability to sew it up, even if it's a direct to DVD feature (which jem's source says is unlikely without a season 4) or - better yet - a four or six hour end of series mini.
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Postby dajafi » Sun Jan 14, 2007 19:41:24

VoxOrion wrote:I ache to think of life without BSG, but this past half season was really poor, in my opinion - ditto for the finale (which seemed way too similar to the mid-season finale of season two - I can easily imagine how it will resolve itself). I hope they have the time and ability to sew it up, even if it's a direct to DVD feature (which jem's source says is unlikely without a season 4) or - better yet - a four or six hour end of series mini.


Can't remember if we went over this, but my theory was that they showed too much life amongst the Cylons--taking away the mystery and weirdness of their species made everything else seem less consequential.

Watching the mid-season finale, I was amazed (and sort of horrified) to find myself not actually much caring how they resolved it. Starbuck shot down? Nuke usage authorized? Marriages in trouble? Feh.

I'd be surprised, btw, if they fail to wrap it up even absent a season 4. There might be only a couple million regular viewers--but they'd all go to the movie or buy the DVD. If Firefly came back in some form post-cancelation (and might again, per my brother who's a big sci-fi geek), no way would they just let BSG drift into the dustbin of TV history.

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Postby 1 » Sun Jan 14, 2007 22:10:53

Demetri Martin: Person airs tonight at 10 on Comedy Central. He's good. Real good. If it's anything like his fall tour (music multitasking and multimedia w/ comedy), it's gonna be great.
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