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by **Mountainphan** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 16:57:47

stevelxa476 wrote:
Doll Is Mine wrote:
CFP wrote:
Ok Just got off the phone: What I'm being told is:

We get Halladay and cash;
We 3 prospects from the Mariners which we send to Toronto with Taylor. Happ is not in the deal.

3-year extension for Doc.

Guy from Beerleaguer. Take it FWIW.

A huge piece of the puzzle seems to be missing.

Maybe the Mariners are just really really nice.

Nicest team in baseball - 10 years in a row and counting!

by **Trent Steele** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 16:57:50

HEYMAN REPORTING DEAL IS DONE

3-way trade agreed to with halladay going to phils, cliff lee to mariners. phils trying to lock up roy now.
2 minutes ago from web

by **Doll Is Mine** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 16:57:55

I'm conflicted. I'm happy but I'm sad.

by **phorever** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 16:57:58

FTN wrote:
phorever wrote:
FTN wrote:Halladay will be better than Lee over the next 5 years too, fwiw

prove it

111, 102, 72, 168, 131

v

184, 143, 120, 152, 155

Halladay was better than Lee last year. Has a much better track record. And is a massive groundball/control/innings eating pitcher. His decline is going to be gradual, if he declines at all any time soon. His last two seasons were elite. His "down" in 2007 was better than anything Lee had done up till 2008. I just think he's the better pitcher, by a substantial margin.

good argument. they were closer in fip than in era+ this year, though, and 15 months of age and a lot more mileage aren't completely negligible issues.

i just don't see the margin being certain or substantial enough in 2010 to be worth giving up brown, unless we are pretty darn certain that waiting a year will drive halladay's price much higher.

by **Didn't I?** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 16:58:04

Posted on SI.com now.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/b ... index.html

by **FTN** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 17:00:29

Roy Halladay is a Phillies

amazing

by **Grotewold** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 17:01:06

FTN wrote:Roy Halladay is a Phillies

amazing

by **The Dude** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 17:01:16

wowowowoowow never leaving miami

by **uncle milt** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 17:01:35

by **momadance** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 17:01:54

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

by **Grotewold** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 17:02:04

Also, only giving three extra years to Halladay is pretty tits no

by **iamgeorge** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 17:02:10

I just ordered my copy of Smuggyball.

by **CFP** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 17:02:36

Hopefully Rube can pull Aumont or Morrow out of this. I don't hate the deal, but I don't like giving up Taylor and Lee and not getting at least one prospect along with Roy.

by **lethal** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 17:02:51

So Carrasco, Knapp, Donald, Marson and Taylor for a half season and postseason of Lee and then Halladay for 2010-2014 plus cash.

If you told me that was the deal last July, I would've taken it in a heartbeat.

by **Woody** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 17:03:18

Heman

sorry, quick trigger finger. #mariners definitely the third team. checking now with cliff lee is the pltcher they get.

BLANTON?!

by **joe table** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 17:03:30

If they got Halladay for 3 years somehow then I'm happy to be wrong, and this deal makes a ton of sense

Halladay is a rare bird if he'd take 3 years, a true star who is going to settle for below market

by **dsc25** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 17:04:25

Woody wrote:
Heman

sorry, quick trigger finger. #mariners definitely the third team. checking now with cliff lee is the pltcher they get.

BLANTON?!

Whoa. That would be amazing.

by **stevemc** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 17:04:34

good lord if they keep Lee. . . . . .

by **TheDude24** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 17:05:26

Deckchairs rearranged on the NL Champion ship.

by **Benny Lava** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 17:06:10

i turned on mlb network to see if they had any news and i see the brewers GM signed wolf for 3 years. lol

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