Phillies vs Dodgers: NLCS Discussion

Postby VFB » Fri Oct 10, 2008 15:45:10

pregame on CSN

according to ricky-bo, billingsley doesnt have the postseason experience to deal with the left handed hitters in the lineup today

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Postby philliesphhan » Fri Oct 10, 2008 15:53:07

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In the end, the Phillies may win this series, as one scout suggested this week, simply because they stand to play four games at hitter-friendly Citizens Bank Park and only three in pitcher-friendly Dodger Stadium.

Rarely does a series present two such contrasting parks. Citizens Bank Park is practically a performance-enhancing drug for the Phillies, giving them the confidence that they can do just what they did in Game 1, bash a couple of homers and be done with it. But Dodger Stadium all but shrinks sluggers such as Utley, Burrell and Ryan Howard, shifting the psychological advantage to the pitchers.


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Utley at Dodger stadium .373 .425 .746 5 HR
Howard .231 .328 .635 7 HR
Burrell .257 .356 .485 5 HR

All of them hit decent enough power wise there, but Utley was a very poor example there, Kenny
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Postby Stay_Disappointed » Fri Oct 10, 2008 15:55:15

VFB wrote:pregame on CSN

according to ricky-bo, billingsley doesnt have the postseason experience to deal with the left handed hitters in the lineup today


He also doesn't have the post season experience to deal with the Burt Hootenany the fans will throw at him
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Postby drsmooth » Fri Oct 10, 2008 16:05:16

smitty wrote:The big thing I notice when looking at home road splits for these two teams is the Dodger pitchers. They had a 3.01 ERA at home compared to a 4.40 away mark. They strike out a lot more guys at homwe and allow many fewer hits, walks and homers.


great stuff as always smitty, provoking thoughts like "what enables their pitchers to miss LOTS more bats at home than away?"
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Postby drsmooth » Fri Oct 10, 2008 16:08:46

philliesphhan wrote:Utley at Dodger stadium .373 .425 .746 5 HR
Howard .231 .328 .635 7 HR
Burrell .257 .356 .485 5 HR

All of them hit decent enough power wise there, but Utley was a very poor example there, Kenny


that storyline must act like a powerful intelligence-suppression drug on the brains of chatterers like realken
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Postby 1 » Fri Oct 10, 2008 22:41:06

Fine. You wanna act like you're two? I'll act like I'm one.

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Postby VFB » Fri Oct 10, 2008 22:49:29

1 wrote:http://www.dodgerblues.com/fanforum/nfphpbb/viewtopic.php_t=15911

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Postby 1 » Fri Oct 10, 2008 23:25:52

The Phillies have announced that they will hold a viewing party for Game 3 at the Great Plaza at Penn's Landing on Sunday night. The event, sponsored by the Penn's Landing Corporation, is free. It will start at 8 o'clock.

If you go, you can watch the game from Dodger Stadium on a 17’ by 27’ LED video display. Game time is 8:22 p.m. The Great Plaza is located off Columbus Boulevard, between Walnut and Market streets.

"Our fans have been so amazing all year. We all wish we could be in Los Angeles to root in person, but this is a great way to gather with fellow Phillies fans, watch the game and cheer us on to victory," wrote Michael Harris, Philies director for marketing and special projects, in an e-mail.

Special appearances will be made by the Phillie Phanatic and Phillies Ballgirls, and rally towels will be given to fans. You also can purchase a variety of snacks and beverages (nonalcoholic and beer). Guests are being asked to bring along blankets and chairs, as well as food and beverages.


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Postby JFLNYC » Sat Oct 11, 2008 00:09:57

1 wrote:
The Phillies have announced that they will hold a viewing party for Game 3 at the Great Plaza at Penn's Landing on Sunday night. The event, sponsored by the Penn's Landing Corporation, is free. It will start at 8 o'clock.


When I first read this I thought they meant a "viewing party" for Charlie's mom and I thought: "Geez! That's tacky!"
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Postby Stay_Disappointed » Sat Oct 11, 2008 07:22:04

ESPN
Billingsley plays blame game after rough outing

LA DAILY NEWS
Dodgers are failing their biggest test

LA TIMES
T.J. Simers

And although they were nothing more than Angryville chum here the last two days, as bad as the Dodgers must feel, they get to leave Philadelphia while all the towel wavers remain stuck here.











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Postby JFLNYC » Sat Oct 11, 2008 10:36:38

"I'm tired of hearing this stadium is a bandbox," Blake said.
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Postby philliesphhan » Sat Oct 11, 2008 16:58:54

Is T.J. Simers like 5 years old? What a childish article
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Postby VFB » Sat Oct 11, 2008 17:13:52

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Postby phdave » Sat Oct 11, 2008 22:05:06

An LA Times letter to the editor:

Cubs fan doesn't find friendly confines

I am a Cubs fan who was at Dodger Stadium for the final game of the drubbing. The Dodgers were clearly the better team and deserved to advance in the playoffs.

Enduring the loss was disappointing enough, but seeing the Raider-like behavior of quite a few fans was just shameful. There were plenty of Cubs fans who were just plain abused for doing nothing more than standing in a concession line wearing Cubs gear. The obnoxious offenders were not only tolerated but encouraged by others in the crowd.

Los Angeles is no longer a place to take kids to a sporting event unless you want to give them a quick lesson on bad manners, obnoxious behavior and apathy. Dodgers fans one and all should be ashamed not only of the rude behavior of the few, but the lack of action of the many that encouraged it.

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I'm going to the game tomorrow. I don't feel concerned about going and wearing all of my Phillies gear. I have gone to 4 games there and there was never really a problem. There were some unruly fans that were yelling at Phillies phans, but it wasn't really a big deal. But I don't know what the playoffs will be like, especially when they are in danger of having their season ended.

Just thought I'd throw this out there and see if anyone had any comments.

And Jamie Moyer owes me. I went to the last game he pitched at Dodgers Stadium. 10 runs in 5 1/3 innings.

In other news, Nomar is starting tomorrow at 1st tomorrow because he has good career numbers against Moyer. Also, Lowe is going to start Game 4 on 3 days rest.
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Postby laf837 » Sat Oct 11, 2008 23:42:53

phdave wrote:An LA Times letter to the editor:

Cubs fan doesn't find friendly confines

I am a Cubs fan who was at Dodger Stadium for the final game of the drubbing. The Dodgers were clearly the better team and deserved to advance in the playoffs.

Enduring the loss was disappointing enough, but seeing the Raider-like behavior of quite a few fans was just shameful. There were plenty of Cubs fans who were just plain abused for doing nothing more than standing in a concession line wearing Cubs gear. The obnoxious offenders were not only tolerated but encouraged by others in the crowd.

Los Angeles is no longer a place to take kids to a sporting event unless you want to give them a quick lesson on bad manners, obnoxious behavior and apathy. Dodgers fans one and all should be ashamed not only of the rude behavior of the few, but the lack of action of the many that encouraged it.

Ray Miller

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I'm going to the game tomorrow. I don't feel concerned about going and wearing all of my Phillies gear. I have gone to 4 games there and there was never really a problem. There were some unruly fans that were yelling at Phillies phans, but it wasn't really a big deal. But I don't know what the playoffs will be like, especially when they are in danger of having their season ended.

Just thought I'd throw this out there and see if anyone had any comments.

And Jamie Moyer owes me. I went to the last game he pitched at Dodgers Stadium. 10 runs in 5 1/3 innings.

In other news, Nomar is starting tomorrow at 1st tomorrow because he has good career numbers against Moyer. Also, Lowe is going to start Game 4 on 3 days rest.


When I was at Game 1 on Thurs. the restrooms were pretty much Thunderdome and truly inhospitable to Dodgers fans. In fact the abuse was so bad, a young dodgers fan in line dipped before doing his business. So...either pee in a cup or hold it in is my advice. Basically, prepare for the worst.
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Postby CFP » Sat Oct 11, 2008 23:57:49

phdave wrote:An LA Times letter to the editor:

Cubs fan doesn't find friendly confines

I am a Cubs fan who was at Dodger Stadium for the final game of the drubbing. The Dodgers were clearly the better team and deserved to advance in the playoffs.

Enduring the loss was disappointing enough, but seeing the Raider-like behavior of quite a few fans was just shameful. There were plenty of Cubs fans who were just plain abused for doing nothing more than standing in a concession line wearing Cubs gear. The obnoxious offenders were not only tolerated but encouraged by others in the crowd.

Los Angeles is no longer a place to take kids to a sporting event unless you want to give them a quick lesson on bad manners, obnoxious behavior and apathy. Dodgers fans one and all should be ashamed not only of the rude behavior of the few, but the lack of action of the many that encouraged it.

Ray Miller

Simi Valley


I'm going to the game tomorrow. I don't feel concerned about going and wearing all of my Phillies gear. I have gone to 4 games there and there was never really a problem. There were some unruly fans that were yelling at Phillies phans, but it wasn't really a big deal. But I don't know what the playoffs will be like, especially when they are in danger of having their season ended.

Just thought I'd throw this out there and see if anyone had any comments.

And Jamie Moyer owes me. I went to the last game he pitched at Dodgers Stadium. 10 runs in 5 1/3 innings.

In other news, Nomar is starting tomorrow at 1st tomorrow because he has good career numbers against Moyer. Also, Lowe is going to start Game 4 on 3 days rest.


And there's your answer. It's the playoffs. Regular season: Dodgers fans suck. Show up in the 3rd, leave in the 8th. Biggest bandwagoning city ever with that team. Get ready for a bunch of effeminate 20-somethings and teenagers yelling and screaming who can't even name 5 guys on the team. It's gonna suck probably. But just go and support the Phightin's.

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Postby TenuredVulture » Sun Oct 12, 2008 00:38:56

They're fucking Dodger fans. From LA. If you can't kick their ass, you should be ashamed. C'mon, one Santa Booing Philly fan should be able to lick 5 LA leaving in the 7th inning fans no problem.
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Postby phdave » Sun Oct 12, 2008 00:48:25

What I learned from going to Dodger games is that there are "fans" and then there are fans. The "fans" get there late and leave early. They are just there because it is a place to go in LA.

And then there are some crazy baseball fans there who scream their heads off like real fans. I sat on the 1st base side close to the foul pole two years ago when Abreu was still on the team. There was a group of crazy fans who were giving Abreu more shit than I ever heard him get in Philly, and that's saying something.

My guess is that there is a cultural difference in the fans. The fans of Latin American descent are the ones who are more likely to act like crazy fans. The Anglos, not so much. Especially the ones who sit behind home plate. Extreme generalization yes but I went to a baseball game in Mexico one time and I noticed a similarity in the vibe from some parts of the crowd.
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Postby phdave » Sun Oct 12, 2008 00:50:35

laf837 wrote:When I was at Game 1 on Thurs. the restrooms were pretty much Thunderdome and truly inhospitable to Dodgers fans. In fact the abuse was so bad, a young dodgers fan in line dipped before doing his business. So...either pee in a cup or hold it in is my advice. Basically, prepare for the worst.


Maybe I'll go when Manny is about to hit.
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Postby The Red Tornado » Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:13:43

phdave wrote:What I learned from going to Dodger games is that there are "fans" and then there are fans. The "fans" get there late and leave early. They are just there because it is a place to go in LA.

And then there are some crazy baseball fans there who scream their heads off like real fans. I sat on the 1st base side close to the foul pole two years ago when Abreu was still on the team. There was a group of crazy fans who were giving Abreu more $#@! than I ever heard him get in Philly, and that's saying something.

My guess is that there is a cultural difference in the fans. The fans of Latin American descent are the ones who are more likely to act like crazy fans. The Anglos, not so much. Especially the ones who sit behind home plate. Extreme generalization yes but I went to a baseball game in Mexico one time and I noticed a similarity in the vibe from some parts of the crowd.


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