Trump and the Christmas Hater caught the 'Rona

by **Slowhand** » Mon Oct 05, 2020 15:19:43

CFP wrote:He's so hopped up on roids I just don't think he has any idea of what's going on. Well, less of an idea than usual. He'll be back at WRMC by Friday.

by **momadance** » Mon Oct 05, 2020 15:20:21

He's just being moved from one hospital to another. Conley says Trump has been medicated in accordance with protocol. The medications he has received are only protocol for a far sicker patient than disclosed.

by **thephan** » Mon Oct 05, 2020 15:20:52

love that they will not look backwards when asked about his ability to safely be around other people at the WH

And Conley saying that the tweets and doctored videos show that he's back. yeah.

by **momadance** » Mon Oct 05, 2020 15:21:57

Dodging the lung scan questions. Citing HIPPA holy shit.

by **thephan** » Mon Oct 05, 2020 15:24:16

Dodging everything. HIPPA people! Will not touch Trump's fearless about COVID tweet. Smells like a hoax.

by **TenuredVulture** » Mon Oct 05, 2020 15:48:38

One thing I'd like to know is how is the white house managing to run the executive branch with so many people testing positive? Is it only communications staff that has been hit? What about other mid-level West Wing people? How many secret service personnel are having to quarantine, and what kind of burden does that put on the remaining offices? Does the fact that the White House has never been fully staffed during the administration mean that any redundancy you'd expect in a normal white isn't available? Is there anyone who can negotiate with the House on a relief bill? How much authority do they have? Have any national security people tested positive?

by **momadance** » Mon Oct 05, 2020 15:51:00

Two WH housekeepers have tested positive.

by **momadance** » Mon Oct 05, 2020 15:51:34

Obviously, they stopped testing him a long time ago.

@JenniferJJacobs
"I don't want to go backwards,” Dr. Conley told me when I asked Trump’s last negative test.

"But I would say it wasn't until he returned (from Bedminster) that we really sat down then knowing the news of the day that we really dove into how are you feeling, what's going on?"

by **Slowhand** » Mon Oct 05, 2020 15:52:05

momadance wrote:Two WH housekeepers have tested positive.

Pfft. They don’t matter.

by **Werthless** » Mon Oct 05, 2020 15:54:08

I don't think the American public needs a play-by-play of the President's health. It's not in the interest of the US, it's not in the interest of the President, and it's not in the interest of national security for hourly updates. Who does that serve, besides our own morbid curiosity? Is he healthy enough to be in charge, or no? That's the question that matters, and the decision-makers who should have that information are the cabinet. Anyone else, it's on an as-needed basis.

If Obama was sick, what information would we demand? Would we demand what treatment he received? No, of course not. If Trump chooses to share more, then he's welcome to.

by **CFP** » Mon Oct 05, 2020 15:54:53

CFP wrote:
Monkeyboy wrote:Maybe he'll come out of it a changed man and he'll apologize for being wrong all this time.

Hahahhhahahahahahahhhhhhhhhah

Still laughing

by **CalvinBall** » Mon Oct 05, 2020 15:57:26

Werthless wrote:I don't think the American public needs a play-by-play of the President's health. It's not in the interest of the US, it's not in the interest of the President, and it's not in the interest of national security for hourly updates. Who does that serve, besides our own morbid curiosity? Is he healthy enough to be in charge, or no? That's the question that matters, and the decision-makers who should have that information are the cabinet. Anyone else, it's on an as-needed basis.

If Obama was sick, what information would we demand? Would we demand what treatment he received? No, of course not. If Trump chooses to share more, then he's welcome to.

Not sure anyone in Trump's orbit would try to pump the brakes if he were not healthy enough. Even his doctors are covering for him. So I do not think it is out of line to be concerned to outraged or whatever.

And knowing when he tested positive should be a pretty easy baseline to answer to.

by **momadance** » Mon Oct 05, 2020 15:58:22

@Santucci
Multiple White House sources told @ABC News there is "a full-blown freak-out" in the administration waiting to see who will be next to test positive -- with aides not trusting each other and some trying to find ways to avoid coming into work at all.

by **jamiethekiller** » Mon Oct 05, 2020 15:58:46

Werthless wrote:I don't think the American public needs a play-by-play of the President's health. It's not in the interest of the US, it's not in the interest of the President, and it's not in the interest of national security for hourly updates. Who does that serve, besides our own morbid curiosity? Is he healthy enough to be in charge, or no? That's the question that matters, and the decision-makers who should have that information are the cabinet. Anyone else, it's on an as-needed basis.

If Obama was sick, what information would we demand? Would we demand what treatment he received? No, of course not. If Trump chooses to share more, then he's welcome to.

Agreed. I'm amazed they've shared anything at all

by **stevemc** » Mon Oct 05, 2020 16:08:49

jamiethekiller wrote:
Werthless wrote:I don't think the American public needs a play-by-play of the President's health. It's not in the interest of the US, it's not in the interest of the President, and it's not in the interest of national security for hourly updates. Who does that serve, besides our own morbid curiosity? Is he healthy enough to be in charge, or no? That's the question that matters, and the decision-makers who should have that information are the cabinet. Anyone else, it's on an as-needed basis.

If Obama was sick, what information would we demand? Would we demand what treatment he received? No, of course not. If Trump chooses to share more, then he's welcome to.

Agreed. I'm amazed they've shared anything at all

They have to both for national security (important) as well as the stock market (in their minds)

by **TenuredVulture** » Mon Oct 05, 2020 16:09:17

jamiethekiller wrote:
Werthless wrote:I don't think the American public needs a play-by-play of the President's health. It's not in the interest of the US, it's not in the interest of the President, and it's not in the interest of national security for hourly updates. Who does that serve, besides our own morbid curiosity? Is he healthy enough to be in charge, or no? That's the question that matters, and the decision-makers who should have that information are the cabinet. Anyone else, it's on an as-needed basis.

If Obama was sick, what information would we demand? Would we demand what treatment he received? No, of course not. If Trump chooses to share more, then he's welcome to.

Agreed. I'm amazed they've shared anything at all

A well run WH would not have this problem. One systemic problem is POTUS himself can undermine the communication strategy with Tweets, and there's no message discipline. It's also a WH that lies all the time. Add to that half if not more of the Press office is now Corona positive.

In essence, we have something very much like what we had in the old days of the USSR with Kreminology where people would glean through Kremlin press announcements, rumors, and other slivers of information to try to figure out what was really happening.

by **momadance** » Mon Oct 05, 2020 16:15:05

The WH has handled this worse than Chernobyl.

by **Monkeyboy** » Mon Oct 05, 2020 16:45:28

Rev_Beezer wrote:From Vanity Fair:

There is a long history in the Trump family of denying serious illness. According to a Trump family friend, Trump’s father, Fred Trump Sr., insisted on working even after his Alzheimer’s disease advanced in the 1990s. “To retire is to expire!” Fred Sr. would say. The friend said that as Fred Sr.’s disease worsened––he once came down the stairs wearing three neckties––the family created a system so that Fred could think he was still running the Trump Organization. Every day Fred Sr. would go to the office in Brooklyn and they would give him blank papers to sort through and sign. The phone on Fred’s desk was set up so that it could only dial out to his secretary. “Fred pretended to work,” the family friend said.

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Didn't they catch him just yesterday signing blank sheets of paper and taking fake photos. Maybe they are already doing the Fred Sr thing with Trump? I think they did the same thing with Reagan.

by **Monkeyboy** » Mon Oct 05, 2020 16:49:00

1 wrote:Worst case scenario.

Add in the fact that his tax thing and the debate debacle get swept under the rug by the 24 hour news cycle and Trump's constant scandals and this is a real kick in the teeth.

Fortunately, people are paying attention in the run-up to the election and the emperor no longer is wearing any clothes.

by **Monkeyboy** » Mon Oct 05, 2020 16:51:22

momadance wrote:
CFP wrote:This has gone past me rooting for him to get better at this point. What a sad man. Please vote for Joe Biden. That is all.

Release the ads, Joe.

Yeh, the material they have to work with because of this outbreak is going to be a sight to see.

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