Trump and the Christmas Hater caught the 'Rona

Re: Trump and the Christmas Hater caught the 'Rona

Postby CalvinBall » Sun Oct 04, 2020 22:41:07

From what I've read about that steroid it's not something you use for preventative measures

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Re: Trump and the Christmas Hater caught the 'Rona

Postby The Dude » Sun Oct 04, 2020 22:46:11

It’s used for inflammation. JFL said he uses it. We have no idea what’s going on right now. If he was in dire straits and they were using it it seems hard to believe we’d be seeing him every day
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Re: Trump and the Christmas Hater caught the 'Rona

Postby momadance » Sun Oct 04, 2020 22:59:02

Barr is self quarantining.

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Re: Trump and the Christmas Hater caught the 'Rona

Postby 06hawkalum » Sun Oct 04, 2020 23:05:18

momadance wrote:Barr is self quarantining.


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Re: Trump and the Christmas Hater caught the 'Rona

Postby JFLNYC » Sun Oct 04, 2020 23:06:57

That fat tub of seditious goo.
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Re: Trump and the Christmas Hater caught the 'Rona

Postby 06hawkalum » Sun Oct 04, 2020 23:17:08

JFLNYC wrote:That fat tub of seditious goo.


I hate him worse than Trump. Cannot figure out his MO. Is it $$$, or he just a deranged fascist?
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Re: Trump and the Christmas Hater caught the 'Rona

Postby Bucky » Sun Oct 04, 2020 23:20:23

The Dude wrote:It’s used for inflammation. JFL said he uses it. We have no idea what’s going on right now. If he was in dire straits and they were using it it seems hard to believe we’d be seeing him every day



mark knopfler would never have him

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Re: Trump and the Christmas Hater caught the 'Rona

Postby Wolfgang622 » Sun Oct 04, 2020 23:24:37

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Werthless wrote:His family is not going away either. It will be like Sarah Palin times two.

The palins have gone away.


Oh yeah?

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Re: Trump and the Christmas Hater caught the 'Rona

Postby Wheels Tupay » Sun Oct 04, 2020 23:34:38

CalvinBall wrote:Not a doctor but dont think it's healthy to pump someone full of stuff they don't need


That's the big pharma business strategy
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Re: Trump and the Christmas Hater caught the 'Rona

Postby Werthless » Sun Oct 04, 2020 23:53:35

CFP wrote:This guy saw his oxygen levels drop twice in recent days, is being drugged with all kinds of stuff, and is going to walk out of the hospital tomorrow? I don’t think so.

Serious question, I suppose, but do they have at least one of the thousand rooms in the White House configured for healthcare support? I would expect that the President of the United States of America should be able to receive good care at home.

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Re: Trump and the Christmas Hater caught the 'Rona

Postby jerseyhoya » Sun Oct 04, 2020 23:59:06

Apparently they can do most stuff a hospital can in the WH, but can't do things like scanning his lungs or other things that require very specialized equipment.

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Re: Trump and the Christmas Hater caught the 'Rona

Postby momadance » Mon Oct 05, 2020 00:00:21

Werthless wrote:
CFP wrote:This guy saw his oxygen levels drop twice in recent days, is being drugged with all kinds of stuff, and is going to walk out of the hospital tomorrow? I don’t think so.

Serious question, I suppose, but do they have at least one of the thousand rooms in the White House configured for healthcare support? I would expect that the President of the United States of America should be able to receive good care at home.


Yes, but it is not equipped for an ICU patient. The WR suite has a regular hospital like bedroom and an ICU room. If Trump's blood oxygen levels didn't drop he probably wouldn't have ended up at WR.
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Re: Trump and the Christmas Hater caught the 'Rona

Postby MFP » Mon Oct 05, 2020 00:07:03

The Dude wrote:It’s used for inflammation. JFL said he uses it. We have no idea what’s going on right now. If he was in dire straits and they were using it it seems hard to believe we’d be seeing him every day

Almost certain that the real reason that we're seeing him every day is because they're trying to control the narrative and not make this look as bad as it probably is. Really, the only reason that we know any of this right now is because Jennifer Jacobs was able to break the Hope Hicks news, and then the dominoes fell from there. The administration wanted to keep this entire thing under wraps and since they couldn't, they now want to paint the rosiest picture that they can, which involves parading him out in an attempt to convince everyone that everything's OK.

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Re: Trump and the Christmas Hater caught the 'Rona

Postby jerseyhoya » Mon Oct 05, 2020 00:13:10

I mean sure, and he's probably not super healthy or else they wouldn't be doing this, but his video from today seemed pretty with it. Like I guess he could still get super sick and/or die, but he's not exactly knocking on death's door or out of commission at the moment.

If he was a normal person who could accept that he's been wrong, he could maybe try to move the goalposts on coronavirus, talking about how this episode has underlined to him the importance of social distancing and wearing masks and whatever. And how his administration's pushing for a vaccine and experimental treatments is vital and saving lives and whatnot. Could use it to humanize himself and eat a bit of crow while talking up administration priorities, but he won't because he is completely incapable of doing so.

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Re: Trump and the Christmas Hater caught the 'Rona

Postby momadance » Mon Oct 05, 2020 00:15:16

The ride today was apparently Trump's idea because he was bored and pissed over the non-stop watching the TV News coverage.

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Re: Trump and the Christmas Hater caught the 'Rona

Postby gr » Mon Oct 05, 2020 00:15:54

Also too much at stake for the party to do that.
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Re: Trump and the Christmas Hater caught the 'Rona

Postby jerseyhoya » Mon Oct 05, 2020 00:27:01

gr wrote:Also too much at stake for the party to do that.

If he cared about the Republican Party, which he does not even a little bit except for how its performance reflects upon himself, he would absolutely do that.

But he won't, because he can't, because that's not who he is, and the members of Congress who tied themselves to him, unwillingly or not, will be the ones that bear the brunt of it.

Well, him too. He's gonna get his shit kicked in if this keeps up.

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Re: Trump and the Christmas Hater caught the 'Rona

Postby Monkeyboy » Mon Oct 05, 2020 00:36:54

He deserves to be humiliated and spend as much time in prison as the law allows. There needs to be a consequence for this shit or there will another one right behind him. And the fascist sycophants who supported him require the same.

I'm hoping for a landslide and 54 dem senators. I know it's unlikely but that's what I want. That would allow a few dems from red states to vote against things each time -- like Susan Collins, but better.
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Re: Trump and the Christmas Hater caught the 'Rona

Postby Monkeyboy » Mon Oct 05, 2020 00:47:29

To get to 54 (with the two independents), they would probably need to win

Iowa
Maine
North Carolina
Colorado
Arizona
One of MT, SC, KS, GA, or AL

I'm assuming a loss in AL. And that the dems don't lose an unexpected race, like Peters in MI.

I think it's possible to pull this off, though the odds aren't great when you multiply it out. Iowa is a toss-up, but I like the dem momentum and the other first 5 are currently winning. The tough part will be picking off one of the last group. Winning SC would be an excellent way to top it off.
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Re: Trump and the Christmas Hater caught the 'Rona

Postby Monkeyboy » Mon Oct 05, 2020 00:57:34

Is Trump the Superspreader?

From TPM... behind paywall

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/wa ... erspreader

But there is one person who was exposed to someone with COVID in the days before the Rose Garden event: Donald Trump.

Trump traveled with RNC Chair Ronna McDaniel Thursday and Friday of last week. She apparently began experiencing symptoms “earlier this week”, according to a source who spoke to Politico. The Politico story notes McDaniel got her positive test on Wednesday afternoon. If she tested in response to her own symptoms that puts the onset of illness at Tuesday at the latest. But the article says it was “after a member of her family tested positive.” So there is the apparent chain that gets McDaniel sick.

In any case, McDaniel’s infection and illness seem to precede most or all of the people in the White House cluster. This seems very likely if she tested early in the week. Critically, McDaniel was not at the White House event. She was at home in Michigan on that Saturday and hasn’t left her home since. (To retrace the timeline: McDaniel travels with Trump on Thursday and Friday, went home on Saturday and hasn’t left home since.) Given the timeline it seems quite likely that McDaniel had already been infected by the time she traveled with the President. She apparently tested negative before meeting with him on both days. But that is likely a reference to the rapid saliva tests which have high failure rates. They’re first line surveillance, far from proof that someone isn’t ill or infectious.

Perhaps the whole the thing is a coincidence and the two things have nothing to do with each other. But it seems fairly likely that the President spent time last last week with someone in the early stages of being COVID positive. And there’s just enough time for him to have been infected by McDaniel late in the last week of September and be generating a significant viral load in time for the Saturday White House event.

Hope Hicks was apparently also on that trip. So she could just as likely be the spreader; perhaps both are. There are likely to have been other less known figures who were traveling with the President and also at the Saturday event. We just don’t know which of these people might have tested positive.
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