I think Wallace did about as good as he could given the circumstances. Really bad format with 2 minutes and then "open discussion". If I'm Biden, I'm shutting it down saying I'm not doing two more of these shit shows. Let Kamala Harris wipe the floor with Pence and be done with it.

Put them in boxes where they can turn off the mics when it's not their turn.

The only thing that could have moved the needle tonight was Biden having a very bad senior moment. He apparently didn't.

Everything else is noise.

Trump is losing by a pretty fair margin today. Seems like that is unlikely to change.

Even some the conservative trolls on PT (an unmoderated shitshow of a Phish board) are already waving the white flag of defeat.

Trump is an abomination and he made that crystal clear on national TV tonight.

Congrats Joe!

Trump told white supremacy groups to stand down but stand ready? Did he really say that?

06hawkalum wrote:Even some the conservative trolls on PT (an unmoderated shitshow of a Phish board) are already waving the white flag of defeat.

Trump is an abomination and he made that crystal clear on national TV tonight.

Congrats Joe!

I didn't think there was such thing as a conservative Phish fan.

I haven't been to a nursing home in a while but they debate the rules of checkers better than both of them do when it comes to politics. I only watched because I thought they might fight. Biden said nothing and Trump said a lot more of nothing that everyone doesn't know already.

Biden can't stop adding multiple 00's to all his numbers and Trump can't shut the fuck up for even a second. If you catch him in a lie, wait. Jesus. How many times did they both say "not true" combined? 7,000,0000?

Not sure if I admire or pity those who sat thru this if the entire thing was like the 45 seconds I watched.

Slowhand wrote:

06hawkalum wrote:Even some the conservative trolls on PT (an unmoderated shitshow of a Phish board) are already waving the white flag of defeat.

Trump is an abomination and he made that crystal clear on national TV tonight.

Congrats Joe!

I didn't think there was such thing as a conservative Phish fan.

There aren’t. Pretty sure it’s a bunch of 8channers who collectively picked the board to fuck with the hippies.

The Savior wrote:Trump told white supremacy groups to stand down but stand ready? Did he really say that?

"Stand back and stand by".

WilliamC wrote:I haven't been to a nursing home in a while but they debate the rules of checkers better than both of them do when it comes to politics. I only watched because I thought they might fight. Biden said nothing and Trump said a lot more of nothing that everyone doesn't know already.

Biden can't stop adding multiple 00's to all his numbers and Trump can't shut the fuck up for even a second. If you catch him in a lie, wait. Jesus. How many times did they both say "not true" combined? 7,000,0000?

Reactions like these are the only thing that give me pause. Where you think Joe Biden didn't add anything of substance and President Trump was worse. It is not helped by the media wanting to give the President every out and bend over backwards to pretend like it wasn't a shitshow because he is unable to show base decorum.

Augustus wrote:Spin is already starting and our both sides lol media is all about it. I think Biden sucks and thought he was totally fine.

Idk, CNN is pretty on fire about how awful Trump was.

Watched Hannity for a few moments and I mean, the total fictional universe he's built, when taken as an object in and of itself, is sort of impressive.

Unfortunately tonight I think we witnessed one of the lowest points in the history of our country.

traderdave wrote:What the fuck is he talking about on this Philadelphia thing?

PA is their lynchpin in their attempt to steal the election. Expect massive intimidation at city and suburban polls. He's just setting it up now. I'll give him credit for rarely hiding whatever horrible thing he's doing. He normalizes poor behavior at every turn. By election day, we'll be used to the idea that he's going to steal the election.

Trump and his people are like a football team celebrating having covered a +15 spread in a 14 point loss.

And the people down on Biden after that laid the -15. You won joe but you didn’t cover.

Even Santorum is on Trump.

JFLNYC wrote:Unfortunately tonight I think we witnessed one of the lowest points in the history of our country.

I dunno. Please v. Ferguson was pretty bad. Dred Scott was worse.

JFLNYC wrote:Unfortunately tonight I think we witnessed one of the lowest points in the history of our country.

CNN agrees with you.

Just staggering to me that the civility crowd thinks Biden telling Trump to shut up or calling him a clown is equivalent to the debased fascistic ravings of an imbecile.

jerseyhoya wrote:The only thing that could have moved the needle tonight was Biden having a very bad senior moment. He apparently didn't.

Everything else is noise.

Trump is losing by a pretty fair margin today. Seems like that is unlikely to change.

Agreed. I ask myself 3 questions:

1. Did any Trump supporter watching tonight decide to vote for Biden?

2. Did any Biden supporter decide to vote for Trump?

3. Is any undecided enthused about voting for either of them?

I’m pretty sure the answer to all 3 questions is “no.” It was simply a debasement of our country for no apparent purpose.