Biden in Plain Sight: Politics

Re: Biden in Plain Sight: Politics

Unread postby lethal » Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:26:27

JFLNYC wrote:
Bucky wrote:you think he has ever prepped for anything ever in his life?


Really. The only prep he’s ever done is pull on a condom a couple of times. Even then he probably paid someone to do it for him.


Expectations are so low for Trump that he can't do anything to hurt himself.

Trump himself lowered expectations for Biden by questioning his mental prowess that as long as Biden sounds like a normally functioning human being, he'll be fine.

I still can't figure out who is undecided at this point and could be swayed by watching a debate. I really think anyone who says they're undecided is just lying to themselves and anyone else.

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Werthless wrote:I don't know about anyone else, but I can't think about politics more than a couple times per week. What a challenging time.


Feel this. It's been a hard few weeks mentally for me.


Agree. Struggling to keep my mind away from it, it's so depressing and anxiety-inducing.

https://www.wired.com/story/stop-doomscrolling/

I realized after hearing about the RBG news, that I wasn't really interested in reading through all of the analysis. I saw the headlines, the hot takes on the right, the articles decrying the obvious hypocrisy, the articles advocating for packing the courts, the articles around why elections have consequences, the Biden Rule, etc etc etc. I opted out for the last week.

My goal, and this might be weird, is to find articles that I can send to my Trump-supporting mother. There are so few articles that report on something that Trump said that don't include a paragraph with the tone of "And of course, my dear liberal reader, the administration is leading us to a path of destruction that we can only hope to be saved from. Let me list the ways...." Once you start looking for that paragraph, you'll realize that almost every article has it. This is true even with WaPo articles.


If someone told me 6 years ago that you wrote these words, I would've thought they were out of their minds. That's more on me not giving you enough credit for being reasonable and principled rather than a win at all costs political animal.

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Werthless wrote:This is true even with WaPo articles.


getting dangerously close to my statement that WaPo and NYT are pretty bad!

i've largely checked out on following politics. Nothing i can do(i'm not an activist) and no one i can influence. Cast my vote and move on. How people are following these daily polls seems like digging an early grave to me(stress).


I still read and follow to some extent, but I don't try to argue or discuss my thoughts with anyone to try to change someone's mind, especially online. No one changes their minds, so all it serves to do is waste my time and raise my blood pressure. I do research, form my own thoughts and beliefs and do my part to support by voting or donating or spending money at certain places or certain things while avoiding certain vendors I may disagree with.

If I don't have time to volunteer for a campaign or cause, what else really can I do?

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Re: Biden in Plain Sight: Politics

Unread postby traderdave » Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:42:55

Werthless wrote:https://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-karen-mcdougal-case-tucker-carlson-2020-9

Fox News won a court case by 'persuasively' arguing that no 'reasonable viewer' takes Tucker Carlson seriously


I am, of course, glad to see Carlson get made a fool of (not that it will make any difference) but the ruling overall seems to be horrendous.

"This 'general tenor' of the show should then inform a viewer that he is not 'stating actual facts' about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in 'exaggeration' and 'non-literal commentary,'" the ruling said.

Fox News is not SNL and The Onion (kind of). There is no doubt about the purpose and content of SNL and The Onion. Fox News' commentators, however, do not offer themselves as opinion hosts; they hold themselves out to be "fair and balanced" purveyors of news, facts. Sure as shit the viewers of Fox News take what is said as actual fact. This seems very simple - put Carlson on the stand and ask him if he is a serious journalist and/or if what he expresses is the truth or just his opinion.

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Re: Biden in Plain Sight: Politics

Unread postby thephan » Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:07:37

and there was some crazy talk about a Tucker Carlson for President 2024 thing a while back

I will always enjoy the memory of John Steward destroying him on CNN with the eventual Crossfiring of the show

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Re: Biden in Plain Sight: Politics

Unread postby CalvinBall » Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:34:37

Ohio has become sneakily in play

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Re: Biden in Plain Sight: Politics

Unread postby Augustus » Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:45:22

Really interested to see the impact of ticket splitting in this election. Biden-Gardner voters, Trump-Kelly voters, Biden-Tillis voters, etc.
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Re: Biden in Plain Sight: Politics

Unread postby CFP » Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:46:26

CalvinBall wrote:Ohio has become sneakily in play


Is this from the Fox News poll, or did you read the Crystal Ball post? Wanted to dive into that later.

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Re: Biden in Plain Sight: Politics

Unread postby jerseyhoya » Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:49:12

CalvinBall wrote:Ohio has become sneakily in play

The number of states that come in play when you're winning nationally by 8-10 points and doing better with groups Clinton sucked with like non college whites and seniors is large.

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Re: Biden in Plain Sight: Politics

Unread postby 1 » Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:53:46

thephan wrote:and there was some crazy talk about a Tucker Carlson for President 2024 thing a while back

I will always enjoy the memory of John Steward destroying him on CNN with the eventual Crossfiring of the show


OMG I can’t believe this exists. Wow. If I cared enough about my Trumper relatives who constantly post Tucker clips as actual news, I would share this every day.
Fine. You wanna act like you're two? I'll act like I'm one.

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Re: Biden in Plain Sight: Politics

Unread postby The B1G Piece » Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:58:42

Augustus wrote:Really interested to see the impact of ticket splitting in this election. Biden-Gardner voters, Trump-Kelly voters, Biden-Tillis voters, etc.

Trump-Kelly voters is maddening considering McSally sniffs Trump's butt more than any current senator. Our economy is going to take a massive hit this fall with the lack of tourism.

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Re: Biden in Plain Sight: Politics

Unread postby Rev_Beezer » Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:00:02

Fun story I’ve never told here before;

After Crossfire ended, largely because of this, I was in line at the Chipotle on the Avenue of the America’s. All of the big news agencies have offices nearby.

I look behind me, and yep, Tucker Carlson in a polo shirt. I try to hide my disgust. He mistakes it for someone recognizing a celebrity and starts to smile at me, saying, “yep, it’s me.”

I say, “Well, Jon Stewart was right.” His smile goes away, he makes that confused face he always makes at me, his face gets red, and he leaves the line. No Chipotle for Tuck that day. I felt bad about it briefly before remembering what a dick he is.
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Re: Biden in Plain Sight: Politics

Unread postby TenuredVulture » Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:02:05

jerseyhoya wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:Ohio has become sneakily in play

The number of states that come in play when you're winning nationally by 8-10 points and doing better with groups Clinton sucked with like non college whites and seniors is large.


Is the only Obama 08 state out of reach for Biden Indiana? (I don't think Obama took Missouri, but I don't remember for sure.)
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Re: Biden in Plain Sight: Politics

Unread postby CFP » Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:02:31

Rev_Beezer wrote:Fun story I’ve never told here before;

After Crossfire ended, largely because of this, I was in line at the Chipotle on the Avenue of the America’s. All of the big news agencies have offices nearby.

I look behind me, and yep, Tucker Carlson in a polo shirt. I try to hide my disgust. He mistakes it for someone recognizing a celebrity and starts to smile at me, saying, “yep, it’s me.”

I say, “Well, Jon Stewart was right.” His smile goes away, he makes that confused face he always makes at me, his face gets red, and he leaves the line. No Chipotle for Tuck that day. I felt bad about it briefly before remembering what a dick he is.


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Re: Biden in Plain Sight: Politics

Unread postby jerseyhoya » Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:04:16

TenuredVulture wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:Ohio has become sneakily in play

The number of states that come in play when you're winning nationally by 8-10 points and doing better with groups Clinton sucked with like non college whites and seniors is large.


Is the only Obama 08 state out of reach for Biden Indiana? (I don't think Obama took Missouri, but I don't remember for sure.)

Haven't seen any Indiana polling, but Missouri isn't out of reach for Biden. Obama lost it by 0.1% in 2008.

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Re: Biden in Plain Sight: Politics

Unread postby azrider » Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:14:34

The B1G Piece wrote:
Augustus wrote:Really interested to see the impact of ticket splitting in this election. Biden-Gardner voters, Trump-Kelly voters, Biden-Tillis voters, etc.

Trump-Kelly voters is maddening considering McSally sniffs Trump's butt more than any current senator. Our economy is going to take a massive hit this fall with the lack of tourism.


not up here it won't. construction never really shut down and is keeping things going. we are probably the strongest in the nation right now and that's taking a HUGE hit with spring training. phoenix DAGF keeps building and building.

while not a huge fan of kelly... i'm definitely voting for him, but i guess being a white bald middle aged fat man who's kinda dim resonates well and confuses the trumpers.

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Re: Biden in Plain Sight: Politics

Unread postby CalvinBall » Fri Sep 25, 2020 13:28:46

jerseyhoya wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:Ohio has become sneakily in play

The number of states that come in play when you're winning nationally by 8-10 points and doing better with groups Clinton sucked with like non college whites and seniors is large.


expand the map!

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Re: Biden in Plain Sight: Politics

Unread postby momadance » Fri Sep 25, 2020 13:39:25

Ron Paul just had a stroke on a youtube livestream.

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Re: Biden in Plain Sight: Politics

Unread postby slugsrbad » Fri Sep 25, 2020 13:43:06

momadance wrote:Ron Paul just had a stroke on a youtube livestream.


I thought you were kidding. Lucky for him it was live on stream and he could get medical attention ASAP.
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Re: Biden in Plain Sight: Politics

Unread postby thephan » Fri Sep 25, 2020 13:44:55

Oh, I thought you were referring to some befuddlement asserninery, also misread it as Rand Paul
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Re: Biden in Plain Sight: Politics

Unread postby 06hawkalum » Fri Sep 25, 2020 14:16:10

momadance wrote:Ron Paul just had a stroke on a youtube livestream.


No tears being shed here. The guy is a racist POS, so I am filing this under “when bad things happen to bad people.”
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Re: Biden in Plain Sight: Politics

Unread postby thephan » Fri Sep 25, 2020 14:17:22

You need to try harder 06, I am sure there are bigger, more racists POS available
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