Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Unread postby Augustus » Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:43:37

Bucky wrote:I wouldn't say that's an absolute. He does very few sit downs outside of his fanboy network. But what happened Saturday in Bedminster has been oft repeated- someone calls him out on lies, and he just walks off.


CNN acknowledged that he's repeated that lie about 150 times before being called out: https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/08/politics/trump-veterans-choice-paula-reid/index.html

A few media figures have done a good job, but most are terrible:

1. Sycophants like Hannity
2. The "we have to be fair" crowd like Todd, who are either too weak or too stupid to challenge him and his cronies
3. The people who do challenge him have either become #resistance self-parody like Maddow or make the story about themselves like Acosta

The irony is that the media have become de facto pro-Trump. The first group is doing advocacy work, the second group gives cover to his lies, and the third group feeds his "the media is out to get me" narrative without actually hurting his credibility in a meaningful way. I think this ultimately happens with every president, since our media culture is way more deferential to authority than those of other countries.
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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Unread postby heyeaglefn » Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:47:30

The problem is if you call him out on anything as a reporter you probably will never speak to him again, and as an agency you are hurt to as he will bash you on Twitter as well as keep you from talking to him ever going forward.

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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Unread postby Bill McNeal » Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:30:09

Right. Remember when someone, I think a CNN reporter asked him a question and he just replied “you are fake news” or the time he had press credentials revoked for reporters he didn’t like.
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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Unread postby The Dude » Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:45:22

I was surprised how long he let the Axios interview go
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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Unread postby traderdave » Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:05:16

The Dude wrote:I was surprised how long he let the Axios interview go


I agree. To anybody with functioning brain cells, Trump came off as a bumbling idiot. That interview was a wall-to-wall display of Trump's incompetence, narcissism, and lack of empathy.

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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Unread postby Stay_Disappointed » Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:22:54

I would rather see you lose than win myself

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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Unread postby momadance » Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:27:30

traderdave wrote:
The Dude wrote:I was surprised how long he let the Axios interview go


I agree. To anybody with functioning brain cells, Trump came off as a bumbling idiot. That interview was a wall-to-wall display of Trump's incompetence, narcissism, and lack of empathy.


Trump told staffer that he thought it was great because of how good the ratings were.

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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Unread postby thephan » Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:33:02

I think that he thought he was winning.
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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Unread postby JFLNYC » Mon Aug 10, 2020 13:16:22

So much winning.
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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Unread postby momadance » Mon Aug 10, 2020 13:26:03

Kodak shares drop 40% after government deal halted due to review of "recent allegations of wrongdoing."

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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Unread postby Phred » Mon Aug 10, 2020 13:37:06

momadance wrote:
traderdave wrote:
The Dude wrote:I was surprised how long he let the Axios interview go


I agree. To anybody with functioning brain cells, Trump came off as a bumbling idiot. That interview was a wall-to-wall display of Trump's incompetence, narcissism, and lack of empathy.


Trump told staffer that he thought it was great because of how good the ratings were.


No such thing as bad publicity?
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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Unread postby thephan » Mon Aug 10, 2020 17:45:31



Sometimes you just need a laugh
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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Unread postby heyeaglefn » Mon Aug 10, 2020 17:48:48

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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Unread postby thephan » Mon Aug 10, 2020 17:52:38

Nikki Haley took to Twitter to go a little Karen maneuver about the popcorn factory being late with her daughter, and the Internet moved in for the win

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing ... rn-factory
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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Unread postby heyeaglefn » Mon Aug 10, 2020 17:54:02

Trump just rushed out of a press conference mid speech.

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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Unread postby thephan » Mon Aug 10, 2020 17:55:27

Trump went to Twitter to say that he never said that he wanted his face on Mount Rushmore, and then denigrates the New York Times and CNN for reporting it while being terribly oblivious to the fact that, as I posted before, in 2018 the governor of the state sent it to a local paper
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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Unread postby heyeaglefn » Mon Aug 10, 2020 17:55:55

White house on lockdown.

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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Unread postby thephan » Mon Aug 10, 2020 17:56:03

heyeaglefn wrote:Trump just rushed out of a press conference mid speech.


Sounds like midsentence. And the press is reporting lots of sirens around Lafayette Park, but there’s always lots of sirens there to be honest.

As it develops it sounds like there is some kind of lock down at the White House. This is another thing that happens often around the White House. I got stuck on the wrong side of the street once and was not able to move one time because of a lockdown, and they cleared the street. Ironically I was stuck in Lafayette park
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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Unread postby heyeaglefn » Mon Aug 10, 2020 18:00:08

Shots were fired at 17th and Penn reportedly.

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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Unread postby heyeaglefn » Mon Aug 10, 2020 18:01:45

Trump said secret service shot someone.

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