Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Postby CalvinBall » Wed Jul 22, 2020 16:53:47

Hope they come to Philly and krasner arrests the shit out of them

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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Postby Gimpy » Wed Jul 22, 2020 17:00:37

Who would do the actual arresting? Don’t Philly cops pretty much hate Krasner?

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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Postby swishnicholson » Wed Jul 22, 2020 17:05:19

CalvinBall wrote:
td11 wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:so federal troops/kindnappers are being deployed to other cities for real? pretty terrifying. he seemed so presidential for like 12 minutes yesterday too.

It's alarming how many people seem totally unbothered by this. Like this is 10 million times more concerning than anything to do w any protestors anywhere


It's baffling. I've read articles and seen videos. It's still very hard to understand what is even happening and why. Especially in these other cities-- there aren't even mass protests anymore? These guys just gonna round up people walking around?

And they aren't military right? Like random border patrol troops or something?


Middle america (including me) is not going into the cities right now (obviously the reasons for that are often good). The narrative coming out of Portland is that these are not protesters but punk kids causing wanton destruction. I'm pretty afraid it will be easy to generate this impression in other cites as well, given that every fire, graffiti or physical altercation gets quickly translated into "riot" by local media.
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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Postby joe table » Wed Jul 22, 2020 17:09:40



Classic hit job by his political opponents rona’ing up the presidential emus

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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Postby thephan » Wed Jul 22, 2020 17:35:39

Couple of things:

- DHS said it was The Marshals Service in a game of 'not it'
- Those mom locked arm in arm in Portland easily refute the 'thug life' narrative

There are literally hundreds of multi angle video flowing out of Portland daily from amateurs and reporters that almost universally show that Portland is not a hot bed of violence, but relatively peaceful except where these Federal Troopers move the needle as the agitators.
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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Postby traderdave » Wed Jul 22, 2020 18:03:57

As a child, my daughter would have nightmares about troops marching by our house. Who knew it would actually happen one day.

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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Postby Gimpy » Wed Jul 22, 2020 18:04:49

Her name doesn't happen to be Cassandra, does it?

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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Postby stevelxa476 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 18:16:08

If it is, I don't believe a word she says.
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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Postby Uncle Milty » Wed Jul 22, 2020 20:26:24

Impossible to organize but a nationwide strike would remove the Trumpstapo quickly.
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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Postby Uncle Milty » Wed Jul 22, 2020 21:22:29

Person woman man camera TV

BONUS POINTS!
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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Postby jerseyhoya » Wed Jul 22, 2020 21:35:23

Uncle Milty wrote:Person woman man camera TV

BONUS POINTS!

We have to be living in a simulation

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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Postby thephan » Thu Jul 23, 2020 06:38:06

So the mayor of Portland was out talking to the crowd of protesters when he was tear gased. There was no indication that he was targeted in the two articles that I read through. So I guess the big plus is that they didn't intentionally shoot tear gas canisters at the mayor of Portland, he was just rolled up in the indiscriminate firing of tear gas into crowds.
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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Postby CalvinBall » Thu Jul 23, 2020 08:11:58

The 3 minute clip of trump explaining the memory question on the cognitive test is astoundingly embarrassing.

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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Postby Uncle Milty » Thu Jul 23, 2020 08:22:07

And yet I wake up each day recently to the reality of his increasing chance for reelection.
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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Postby JFLNYC » Thu Jul 23, 2020 08:32:59

Why do you think his chances are increasing, Milty?
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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Postby Phred » Thu Jul 23, 2020 08:49:31

swishnicholson wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:
td11 wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:so federal troops/kindnappers are being deployed to other cities for real? pretty terrifying. he seemed so presidential for like 12 minutes yesterday too.

It's alarming how many people seem totally unbothered by this. Like this is 10 million times more concerning than anything to do w any protestors anywhere


It's baffling. I've read articles and seen videos. It's still very hard to understand what is even happening and why. Especially in these other cities-- there aren't even mass protests anymore? These guys just gonna round up people walking around?

And they aren't military right? Like random border patrol troops or something?


Middle america (including me) is not going into the cities right now (obviously the reasons for that are often good). The narrative coming out of Portland is that these are not protesters but punk kids causing wanton destruction. I'm pretty afraid it will be easy to generate this impression in other cites as well, given that every fire, graffiti or physical altercation gets quickly translated into "riot" by local media.


Sending in the secret police against the local and state governments' wishes still is not the proper way to handle this situation.
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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Postby CalvinBall » Thu Jul 23, 2020 08:51:10

What other cities are "rioting"?

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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Postby Uncle Milty » Thu Jul 23, 2020 09:17:14

JFLNYC wrote:Why do you think his chances are increasing, Milty?


I recognize the electoral margin is slim regardless of what national polls indicate.

My specific concern is the civil unrest situation right now playing into his hands. While what they're doing is wrong it's also a winning strategy. Trump's base is increasingly energized. Only need a few people in a couple swing states to choose order over chaos for him to win. I wasn't around for 1968 but "law and order" after civil unrest appears like it handed Nixon roughly 8% from his low point to election day.

More generally is the disconnect from reality for both the virus and economy/markets. I don't want to get into specifics here but it also aids his reelection.
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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Postby thephan » Thu Jul 23, 2020 09:33:59

CalvinBall wrote:The 3 minute clip of trump explaining the memory question on the cognitive test is astoundingly embarrassing.


From Sunday or his latest demanding that Biden take one and make the results public? Sort of like Trumps taxes, oh, right, unlike Trump's taxes.
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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Postby traderdave » Thu Jul 23, 2020 09:55:47

CalvinBall wrote:The 3 minute clip of trump explaining the memory question on the cognitive test is astoundingly embarrassing.


I saw that clip this morning and now understand Milty's post above. It really is embarrassing. "That's amazing. How did you do that?" My favorite part might have been when he describes the testing process and says, "and then 10, 15, 20 minutes later they said..." Then when he tells the story for the third time in a two minute span it turns into "20, 25 minutes later".

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