Gimpy wrote:The press conference where he confirmed he’s friends with a child sex trafficker and wished her well?

That's the one.

CalvinBall wrote:

Gimpy wrote:The press conference where he confirmed he’s friends with a child sex trafficker and wished her well?

That's the one.

That's the moment when he finally became presidential.

azrider wrote:

Augustus wrote:

azrider wrote:hope nobody here lives near any politician for one of these "peaceful" protests. this is straight out intimidation.

i have a hunch that our definition of "defund police" is not quite the same as theirs. as well of course as homes for all. someone on the left has got to reign in these lunatics, otherwise 4 more years of trump. it's the only thing that could save him.

Thought you were the free speech guy

vandalism, defacing one's personal property and intimidation is free speech? ok dude.

I think political graffiti has a lot more to do with free speech than the vision laid out in that Harper's letter, which was mainly demanding a platform for rich people to spew bigotry while simultaneously demanding that no one challenges that bigotry.

I don't quite know how to phrase this to you, but if your entire politics revolves around handwringing over over perceived "threats" to the wealthy and powerful while ordinary people are being beaten and murdered in the streets, you should probably think about why.

Graffiti on a mayor's house? INTIMIDATION. Federal agents in unmarked vehicles kidnapping people? There's got to be another side to the story.

We didn't get Trump because of graffiti. We got Trump because this is a white supremacist country with a deeply authoritarian streak. Your primary concern seems to be defending and providing comfort to those who are perpetuating this.

ok

CalvinBall wrote:

Uncle Milty wrote:Would it help if more people spoke out like Tom Ridge? I know his remarks aren't near perfect but could a chorus of voices like his pull the far right back towards center?

The department was established to protect America from the ever-present threat of global terrorism. It was not established to be the president’s personal militia

https://www.penncapital-star.com/civil- ... s-into-pa/

He's 75 next month and runs a lobbying firm for mostly big energy companies in PA. No.

Sounds like pluses to the people I meant

Quiniapiac poll of Texas had Biden +1. Was Trump +1 last month. Texas seems to be a real deal tossup and it is almost August. Not good news if you want Trump to have 4 more years.

so federal troops/kindnappers are being deployed to other cities for real? pretty terrifying. he seemed so presidential for like 12 minutes yesterday too.

CalvinBall wrote:so federal troops/kindnappers are being deployed to other cities for real? pretty terrifying. he seemed so presidential for like 12 minutes yesterday too.

It's alarming how many people seem totally unbothered by this. Like this is 10 million times more concerning than anything to do w any protestors anywhere

td11 wrote:

CalvinBall wrote:so federal troops/kindnappers are being deployed to other cities for real? pretty terrifying. he seemed so presidential for like 12 minutes yesterday too.

It's alarming how many people seem totally unbothered by this. Like this is 10 million times more concerning than anything to do w any protestors anywhere

It's baffling. I've read articles and seen videos. It's still very hard to understand what is even happening and why. Especially in these other cities-- there aren't even mass protests anymore? These guys just gonna round up people walking around?

And they aren't military right? Like random border patrol troops or something?

Isn't this what the NRA has been saying that they need to arm themselves for?

CalvinBall wrote:

td11 wrote:

CalvinBall wrote:so federal troops/kindnappers are being deployed to other cities for real? pretty terrifying. he seemed so presidential for like 12 minutes yesterday too.

It's alarming how many people seem totally unbothered by this. Like this is 10 million times more concerning than anything to do w any protestors anywhere

It's baffling. I've read articles and seen videos. It's still very hard to understand what is even happening and why. Especially in these other cities-- there aren't even mass protests anymore? These guys just gonna round up people walking around?

And they aren't military right? Like random border patrol troops or something?

We don't know!

I read that they might be a reserve force that is called on to protect federal buildings. Idk if that's confirmed tho

The Savior wrote:

CalvinBall wrote:PA has a nuclear bailout bill that's been circulated a few times. Love to give money to massive industries to prop them up.

You can’t be a global warming activist and then not support government prop-up of nuclear assets.

This. As of right now, nuclear is our best option.

But of course, this is partly because we aren't putting enough money into other energy sources.

Bucky wrote:i think that's correct wrt the 'defund the police' thing though. gotta stomp on that.

yeh, sometimes it's not about truth, but the perception of truth. Trump will use this and probably effectively. Let's protest peacefully in huge numbers, don't give them ammunition, and then come together to vote these fuckers out. Then we can use a majority in both chambers and the presidency to actually accomplish some of the goals of protestors.

CalvinBall wrote:

td11 wrote:

CalvinBall wrote:so federal troops/kindnappers are being deployed to other cities for real? pretty terrifying. he seemed so presidential for like 12 minutes yesterday too.

It's alarming how many people seem totally unbothered by this. Like this is 10 million times more concerning than anything to do w any protestors anywhere

It's baffling. I've read articles and seen videos. It's still very hard to understand what is even happening and why. Especially in these other cities-- there aren't even mass protests anymore? These guys just gonna round up people walking around?

And they aren't military right? Like random border patrol troops or something?

The idiots hoarding guns in their basements for when the government comes for them are now sitting on their hands because it turns out the government was coming for someone else.

Trump IS the person they feared but they are so fucking stupid that they think he's on their side.

lmao he's calling it OPERATION LEGEND

Anyone following the attack on Liz Cheney from Trump's henchmen?

For those who missed it, they got on her case about challenging Trump. One of the things said in the heated exchange was Cheney telling Gaetz that she looks forward to the HBO documentary about him.

Classic.

Monkeyboy wrote:yeh, sometimes it's not about truth, but the perception of truth. Trump will use this and probably effectively. Let's protest peacefully in huge numbers, don't give them ammunition, and then come together to vote these fuckers out. Then we can use a majority in both chambers and the presidency to actually accomplish some of the goals of protestors.

amen

When Liz Cheney is the best person in the room, that's saying something.

azrider wrote:

Monkeyboy wrote:yeh, sometimes it's not about truth, but the perception of truth. Trump will use this and probably effectively. Let's protest peacefully in huge numbers, don't give them ammunition, and then come together to vote these fuckers out. Then we can use a majority in both chambers and the presidency to actually accomplish some of the goals of protestors.

amen

They're literally taking people that aren't even near protest and just walking, peacefully

CalvinBall wrote:

azrider wrote:

Monkeyboy wrote:yeh, sometimes it's not about truth, but the perception of truth. Trump will use this and probably effectively. Let's protest peacefully in huge numbers, don't give them ammunition, and then come together to vote these fuckers out. Then we can use a majority in both chambers and the presidency to actually accomplish some of the goals of protestors.

amen

They're literally taking people that aren't even near protest and just walking, peacefully

Yeh, and huge crowds protesting peacefully is the way to handle it. Shine the light. I actually think even many Trump support will be on the side of protestors. It's just so over the line.